Double exalted?

Started by CajunJynx, July 15, 2012, 10:01:02 PM

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Jbombard51

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Kaleo42

I saw this thread and didnt read it cause the answer was easy, but it's stayed on top for so long i figured id see what the problem was.... That was painful to read.
Some keywords can stack. So far as i can tell, the ones that change a creatures behavior (how it attacks, deals damage, and so on) cant stack, but the ones that give the creature bonus's can stack (exalted, bloodthirst, etc.).

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BlackJester

Quote from: Kaleo42 on July 17, 2012, 02:36:15 PM
I saw this thread and didnt read it cause the answer was easy, but it's stayed on top for so long i figured id see what the problem was.... That was painful to read.
Some keywords can stack. So far as i can tell, the ones that change a creatures behavior (how it attacks, deals damage, and so on) cant stack, but the ones that give the creature bonus's can stack (exalted, bloodthirst, etc.).
A good summary.  Let's be exhaustive, shall we:
All "stackable" keyword abilities as of this post

Rampage
Cumulative Upkeep
Flanking
Amplify
Provoke
Storm
Affinity
Modular
Sunburst
Bushido
Soulshift
Bloodthirst
Replicate
Graft
Ripple
Vanishing
Absorb
Fortify
Frenzy
Gravestorm
Poisonous
Conspire
Exalted
Cascade
Annihilator
Battlecry


In this context, "stackable" means "If a spell/creature/permanent has multiple instances of [ KEYWORD ], each of them applies/triggers separately."

We good here?  I may just post this as a sticky for future reference.

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Jbombard51

Does exalted stack with banding?  I never found banding as confusing as stated in the reasoning behind absolving it, but I always found it annoying.

It was a wise guy question, I know exalted does not work with more than one attacker, but it would make banding more interesting at least. 

Deathstorm

When you band something they become one creature so exalted would work because it's still only one creature attacking

Jbombard51

That is not correct. Exalted states exactly one creature.  During declare attackers, you declare attackers, then you choose to band which then forms the one banded force, then you tap to attack. It's a small tedious detail in the declare attackers step, but it is the reason why banded creatures would not gain exalted benefits.

BlackJester

Quote from: Deathstorm on July 17, 2012, 10:50:57 PM
When you band something they become one creature so exalted would work because it's still only one creature attacking
No, they are still different creatures. They don't share abilities, you can't kill the band with one {Murder}, you couldn't sac a band to a {Disciple of Griselbrand} for {1}.

Jbombard51

Quote from: BlackJester on July 17, 2012, 11:01:49 PM
Quote from: Deathstorm on July 17, 2012, 10:50:57 PM
When you band something they become one creature so exalted would work because it's still only one creature attacking
No, they are still different creatures. They don't share abilities, you can't kill the band with one {Murder}, you could sac a band to a {Disciple of Griselbrand} for {1}.

Hmmm.  Interesting. If you can sac a banded group using the ability, why would murder not also work? Fancy word semantics? I'm scratching my head on that one, since either way real damage isn't being dealt; unless I've misunderstood sacrifice rules regarding this.

How would target creature differ from sacrifice a creature in a banded sense is my real question I suppose.

Never mind -- Canadian auto correct must not be 100% compatible with English contractions. Either that or jester spilled some gravy from his fries onto the keyboard ;)