Jon Elden cheated

[Willthomjr]

How did he heat? I didn't catch it.

His opponent put his batterskull at the bottom of the library via vedillion clique..., he uses his fetch land to grab a land...pickin up entire library except for 1 card the batterskull he moves the batterskull to his hand. It's really bad.

[Richardalcala]

Blows my mind. I guess he didn't know he was being taped? What a dummy.

[BlackJester]

He didn't learn that over night. How can people have fun by cheating?

At that level, it's about cash, not fun.

[Kuberr]

They caught it on camera. Did the announcers say anything? Because I heard nothing about the judges doing anything.

Just play then moved on to new people.

[BadLuckIrish]

They caught it on camera. Did the announcers say anything? Because I heard nothing about the judges doing anything.

Just play then moved on to new people.

They said "Oh my god he pulled his BatterSkull." then i stopped watching

[Kuberr]

They caught it on camera. Did the announcers say anything? Because I heard nothing about the judges doing anything.

Just play then moved on to new people.

They said "Oh my god he pulled his BatterSkull." then i stopped watching

I guess my eyes aren't quick enough. Did he end up winning?

[BadLuckIrish]

They caught it on camera. Did the announcers say anything? Because I heard nothing about the judges doing anything.

Just play then moved on to new people.

They said "Oh my god he pulled his BatterSkull." then i stopped watching

I guess my eyes aren't quick enough. Did he end up winning?

when he dropped batterskull on the BF the other conceded. I dont know how none the commentators missed it

[Dudecore]

Magic at that level, or any level with that much on the line, creates people that play to win. A few years ago, going back several years, a few pro players were caught cheating then began playing Texas Hold'em professionally.

WotC had long been lax on cheaters, because they're naive. It's a game that very much hopes your opponent is truthful. What he did may have happened to all of us at one point at FNM, and means the difference between winning a box or losing one.

It's a shame, but what can be done? It's good that there is private play groups to drink and have fun with. There are low-stakes shops that run tournaments where people can trade, help out kids, and just talk with a game we all like. There are apps like this.

[Thorn]

Yeah most people are good and honest but then you get the cheaters. The game was made so poeple could have fun. Not so people could cheat just to win money.
If everyone understood that then the ammount of cheaters would decrease severely.

[Piotr]

If everyone understood that socialism would be a viable option

[remasuri ger]

He didn't learn that over night. How can people have fun by cheating?

Ever played GTA San Andreas

[BlackJester]

Yeah most people are good and honest but then you get the cheaters. The game was made so poeple could have fun. Not so people could cheat just to win money.
If everyone understood that then the ammount of cheaters would decrease severely.

For some people, money is more important than integrity.  And if WotC is lax about punishing real cheaters, than it'll just encourage more of them.

Nature seeks the highest gain for the lowest cost/risk.  If players learn that a little slight of hand can give them and advantage, and the reward is $$$ or cards (as good as money) and the risk is small (cheaters aren't punished strongly) then these people will crop up more and more.

/soapbox

[cltrn81]

Yeah most people are good and honest but then you get the cheaters. The game was made so poeple could have fun. Not so people could cheat just to win money.
If everyone understood that then the ammount of cheaters would decrease severely.

You may as well not bother saying something that has the words "if everyone understood" or "if everyone would" cuz the fact is everyone is going to do what they want.  Only thing that can be done is to punish this type of behavior to help mitigate it in the future. 

[Kuberr]

So this guy cheated and actually placed?  Wow

[BlackJester]

So this guy cheated and actually placed?  Wow

It appears he was disqualified:

http://thebitterblossom.wordpress.com/2012/06/25/cheater-caught-at-star-city-games-open-detroit/