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Started by Pakamper, June 03, 2012, 09:43:58 PM

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Imdowd80

Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 10:55:52 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on June 03, 2012, 10:52:56 PM
I made my point, about respect being earned not given. It was missed. I'm not feeding the flames anymore.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sorry for your parents as well.

As a parent, if my son said that to me. After shelling 30k$ average to raise him, along with all the knowledge I know to keep him safe and make good decisions. I would be super pissed.

You sound ungrateful.
I wasn't going to reply but it's clear you don't get it. How many deadbeat dads are out there? How many moms would rather party then watch there kids. How many kids are in single parents households who don't even see the other parent?  Do they deserve respect NO. If you work hard at being a parent and are in your child's life then yes you have already earned the child's respect. Yes mistakes will happen arguments will be had. But in the end the family is still there. I can't make it any more clear then that.

Kuberr

Lol again the flaw I will point out.

If you're on this forum today, and you live with your parents, odds are your parents are pretty good.

There are always exceptions, but if you are going to point out the fact that there are deadbeat parents and act like theyre the only ones out there. You are wrong and I will fight you till the death of me. Because I believe in my parenting skills. Just because you point out one flaw in the world, does not back up or support tr fact that parents should get respect. Im sorry, but your flaw is bigger than I thought. I'm really sorry you feel the way you do, and I hope you can cope with your childhood.

Sagemaster

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 03, 2012, 10:51:02 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on June 03, 2012, 10:41:50 PM
I don't want to get on a religious argument. But respect is earned not given. But it depended on what he considers hard chores, but six chores to half an hour is a bit extreme IMO.

Dude...it has nothing to do with religion. As you might have read I said it applies to you even if you are not a Christian. I never use religion as an argument because it isn't a common ground for everyone.

That said, I agree with Kuberr: they don't need to earn anything from you.

I think the only one who needs to earn something is you. You need to earn everything they give you free of charge. Least you can do is a few chores...come on man, get with it. Don't be hard to deal with...just do your chores.
I wasn't making a religious argument either...I just wanted to say that they had a similar basis.. Also I agree with both Kuberr and coffee vampire

Hays413

I don't mean to be harsh, but frankly I'd say suck it up. In due time you'll realize that "system" (which by the way seems messed up) did you good. Better to be under a roof with crazy rules than no roof at all

BadLuckIrish

be glad ur not paying rent. My parents tried that system on me but they were too lazy to do anything. But they took it away cause i got my *** together and and just sucked it up and did what they want without any "reward" do that and your fine. Your parents are trying to help you and so are all these people on this forum. They know whats it like. Trust me they do.

loop-s-pool

Nope, respect is earned not given. While most parents do deserve respect from the children, this does not go for every last one. Taking a page from Kuberr's book if you are living under the roof of your parent's house they do most likely deserve the respect. As for the OP, you just need to "struggle" through it. At least one of your parents bust their ass off providing for you and manual labor is a pretty good way to give back, while it may seem like a lot now, you will (hopefully) look back on this and realize where you got your great work ethic from. TL;DR Suck it up kiddo, it'll be better in the end.

Kuberr


BadLuckIrish



Pakamper

Wow. This has gotten really off topic. But anyways. To be blunt. I do respect my parrents and everything they do for me. But seeing as i have a job now and am paying for most of my stuff including meals. I think there should be some greater level of respect rather than treating me as if I was 10. Dont get me wrong. I want to do chores and help out. I wasnt helping out because of pure protest of this system.

Kuberr

The point is, that's not going to help anything.

Coffee Vampire

Yeah...it is good that you are willing to do stuff and I understand that you think it is unfair. But I suggest doing it anyways. That doesn't mean you can't express yourself and offer alternatives or anything; just don't say "no" to your parents. It is a turnoff, to say the least.

Trust me, I have 4 sisters, 2 brothers, and 2 parents. I am second oldest, and I know what happens when people do things that their parents ask them to do, and when people don't. One of my siblings took it really far, and well...I don't want anyone to end up like that. So yeah. Just advice from an experienced observer.

Edit: oh and if ANYONE would like dishwasher loading advice, PM me! ;)

Pakamper

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 04, 2012, 12:42:28 AM
Yeah...it is good that you are willing to do stuff and I understand that you think it is unfair. But I suggest doing it anyways. That doesn't mean you can't express yourself and offer alternatives or anything; just don't say "no" to your parents. It is a turnoff, to say the least.

Trust me, I have 4 sisters, 2 brothers, and 2 parents. I am second oldest, and I know what happens when people do things that their parents ask them to do, and when people don't. One of my siblings took it really far, and well...I don't want anyone to end up like that. So yeah. Just advice from an experienced observer.

Edit: oh and if ANYONE would like dishwasher loading advice, PM me! ;)
I got plenty of experience on dish loading. Anyways. I guess il go witht the majority. Il just do it. Thx guys!

Silvrbacgorrila

Id recommend sitting down with them and discussing their system and your punishment. Not so much arguing with them but having a mature conversation telling them that you understand and appreciate what they're trying to do for you but their system seems a bit unfair and maybe even flawed. Im not saying it would change anything but that's what I would do in your situation

Fenster

The point is that this point is that point and these points with all of those points summerizes this point.
(This is what reading this thread looks like)

And to you, Op.
You gotta fight your parents man. Be rough, be honest and most of all be prepared to make sacrifices. Know whats important to you.

I definititly wouldnt have let my parents take something i earned on my own. But god knows they hid my xbox and power cables to the computer more than once. :P