Pestilence

Started by TBNL, May 23, 2012, 02:32:10 AM

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TBNL

Pretty sure about this one, but my friends disagree. If you have {Pestilence} and {Cemetery Gate} on the field, will the gate live through the pestilence? I'm pretty sure it wouldn't, because the pestilence is a global effect.

Kuberr

Why wouldn't it?

I mean you could kill it of they payed 5 black. But that would be dumb.

Your friend played that gate or you did?

Gorzo

Quote from: TBNL on May 23, 2012, 02:32:10 AM
because the pestilence is a global effect.

Correct, pestilence will pierce pro-black because it's a non-targeting global effecting. If activated 5 times, the wall will be destroyed.

TBNL

Quote from: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 02:36:06 AM
Why wouldn't it?

I mean you could kill it of they payed 5 black. But that would be dumb.

Your friend played that gate or you did?
Friend played the gate and pestilence, he has a deck based around it.

cltrn81

Pro-black still protects from damage so you could pay 100 black mana for pestilence ability and any pro-black creature will still live. 🔨

TBNL

Quote from: cltrn81 on May 23, 2012, 08:24:56 AM
Pro-black still protects from damage so you could pay 100 black mana for pestilence ability and any pro-black creature will still live. 🔨
Does the same rule apply with spells? Could a {Kor Firewalker} live through a {Slagstorm}?

scarsabrex


cltrn81

Any and all forms of damage is prevented.  Except a pro-red still dies if {malignus} or another non-preventable form of damage deals damage to a protected creature.

Note that cards like {wrath of god} do not do damage so pro-white still dies.

scarsabrex

just so people understand

protection makes it so a creature can't be

Damaged
Equipped or enhanted
Blocked
Targeted

by things it has protection from

Kuberr

Quote from: cltrn81 on May 23, 2012, 08:24:56 AM
Pro-black still protects from damage so you could pay 100 black mana for pestilence ability and any pro-black creature will still live. 🔨

That's actually incorrect. Protection from things protects the creature from being targeted. If its global, or an ongoing thing. It is affected.

Willthomjr

Quote from: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 11:25:11 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on May 23, 2012, 08:24:56 AM
Pro-black still protects from damage so you could pay 100 black mana for pestilence ability and any pro-black creature will still live. 🔨

That's actually incorrect. Protection from things protects the creature from being targeted. If its global, or an ongoing thing. It is affected.

Protection from black damage still, regardless of how it happens.

BlackJester

Quote from: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 11:25:11 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on May 23, 2012, 08:24:56 AM
Pro-black still protects from damage so you could pay 100 black mana for pestilence ability and any pro-black creature will still live. 🔨

That's actually incorrect. Protection from things protects the creature from being targeted. If its global, or an ongoing thing. It is affected.

cltrn81 is right for the following reasons:

Quote from: scarsabrex on May 23, 2012, 10:12:48 AM
just so people understand

protection makes it so a creature can't be

Damaged
Equipped or enhanted
Blocked
Targeted

by things it has protection from

Kuberr

Quote from: BlackJester on May 23, 2012, 11:45:42 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 11:25:11 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on May 23, 2012, 08:24:56 AM
Pro-black still protects from damage so you could pay 100 black mana for pestilence ability and any pro-black creature will still live. 🔨

That's actually incorrect. Protection from things protects the creature from being targeted. If its global, or an ongoing thing. It is affected.

cltrn81 is right for the following reasons:

Quote from: scarsabrex on May 23, 2012, 10:12:48 AM
just so people understand

protection makes it so a creature can't be

Damaged
Equipped or enhanted
Blocked
Targeted

by things it has protection from

But that's DIRECTLY damaged...ect. Isn't it?

BlackJester

Nope.  It prevents any and ALL damage from a source of that color.

Kuberr

Quote from: BlackJester on May 23, 2012, 11:57:56 AM
Nope.  It prevents any and ALL damage from a source of that color.

You should tell wizards to fix mtgo then. Haha

They seem to like to make mistakes.