No point in playing zombies

Started by Richardalcala, May 17, 2012, 02:29:05 PM

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Willthomjr

Quote from: SpiritedAway on May 17, 2012, 08:55:18 PM
Dude. Nobody is gonna play those cards, they're not very good. Zombies isn't that ubiquitous enough for people to sideboard big expensive things against them.

What he said. No one will SB 1 card like that. If they do big deal. Run blue or don't dump all of your zombies, keep some in hand if you can.

1 card does not kill a deck (except nihil spellbomb versus self mill deck :/ )

SpiritedAway

Sideboard slots are crucial. It's hard enough to choose 15 cards.

Wally

His bigger problem with that card is when they have it as a main deck and part of their wincon returning all the previously seen humans to the bf in one foul swoop. This is how I used it in the pre-release as I had two of them in my 40 cards.
I came equal second. So in my experience it can work, and well too!

Dudecore

I've seen W/R humans use it a bunch of times. It hoses zombies, and in the process buffs humans. It's a good card in limited.

Are zombies useless? No, but now an already weaker tribe has got to play extremely fast to be viable.

SpiritedAway

Black blue zombies is just plain bad, try black red morbid zombies. Now that a good deck.

Willthomjr

Quote from: SpiritedAway on May 17, 2012, 11:38:21 PM
Black blue zombies is just plain bad, try black red morbid zombies. Now that a good deck.

Running more than one color with zombies screws with geralf and obliterator, right?

Would you just add red for burn?

ChrisRodriguez

Quote from: Willthomjr on May 17, 2012, 11:58:55 PM
Quote from: SpiritedAway on May 17, 2012, 11:38:21 PM
Black blue zombies is just plain bad, try black red morbid zombies. Now that a good deck.

Running more than one color with zombies screws with geralf and obliterator, right?

Would you just add red for burn?
The only red lands will be BR dual lands. {pillar of flames} is also a card that messes with zombies.

BadLuckIrish

Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on May 18, 2012, 12:33:10 AM
Quote from: Willthomjr on May 17, 2012, 11:58:55 PM
Quote from: SpiritedAway on May 17, 2012, 11:38:21 PM
Black blue zombies is just plain bad, try black red morbid zombies. Now that a good deck.

Running more than one color with zombies screws with geralf and obliterator, right?

Would you just add red for burn?
The only red lands will be BR dual lands. {pillar of flames} is also a card that messes with zombies.
Goodbye {Gravecrawler}

Richardalcala

Quote from: Willthomjr on May 17, 2012, 11:58:55 PM
Quote from: SpiritedAway on May 17, 2012, 11:38:21 PM
Black blue zombies is just plain bad, try black red morbid zombies. Now that a good deck.

Running more than one color with zombies screws with geralf and obliterator, right?

Would you just add red for burn?

If you run dual lands it is fine.

SpiritedAway

I don't know how many run Obliterators, but these decks are vicious and are starting to take over my local meta.

Jake, Fart Sculptor

The zombie decks I've played against are too fast to rely on glory's rise. I have one in my bant pod sideboard, and even then I realized that {elesh norn} or even {gisela, blade of goldnight} are better 7 drops than the angel. Even against zombies.

Jake, Fart Sculptor

In other words, keep playing zombies, glory's rise is not what makes r/w humans win. It's just a late game win condition. Less for the zombie aspect and more for the human resurrection factor, I don't believe you should ever mainboard the angel for the purpose of killing zombies.

Richardalcala

Would {grimoire of the dead} stop {angel of glories rise} ? When she popped out could I sac grimoire and get all the humans? I think so but not sure. Thanks.

BlackJester

Quote from: Richardalcala on May 18, 2012, 03:11:44 PM
Would {grimoire of the dead} stop {angel of glories rise} ? When she popped out could I sac grimoire and get all the humans? I think so but not sure. Thanks.

If you have three counters, yes you can.  And then Angel's ability will resolve exiling all the cards you just put in (you know, 'cause they're zombies).

You'd probably be better off with a {Nihil Spellbomb}.

Edit:  ...or respond with a huge {Black Sun's Zenith}/{Killing wave}, and THEN the Grimoire.  >:D

Richardalcala

Thanks BJ. just trying not to give up on my undead army.