Tamiyo and Cavern of Souls

[Death Gaara]

Im not talking about playing it all In one turn.

I'll break it down for you.

My turn.
"look" temporal mastery
I play it.
Next turn I have I get a reforge the soul miracle
I play it
Draw a full hand and play mastery hard cost and some other burn spells
Next turn miracle reforge the soul. Get a temporal mastery and hard cast it. Etc.

This is a ridiculous probability of it all could happen yea, I'm laughing while typing.

So I'm not talking about 1 turn like you thought I was saying.

So for 9 mana (big difference), you still do absolutely nothing and have no mana for your turns. Each turn you perform said loop you gain 1 mana if you make your land drop. That means the first time you do this you have 0 mana. The second you have 1 mana (cant do much with that), the 3rd time you do it you have 2 open mana (still cant do much). And if by some divine miracle you get this to work 4 times in a row you have 3 mana open on that turn. You cant do much with this.

EDIT: Anytime you hardcast temporal, you are not going to have any mana to do anything else.

[cltrn81]

I think {temporal mastery}'s real power is unleashed in Legacy where other cards help abuse it more effectively.

[darkarts981]

THIS IS NOT A REAL TRADE YET!

What would you guys trade out of the new series for these two cards? (I need a reference point)

Nothing yet, I wanna see where prices go

[Coffee Vampire]

Isn't this about the moon sage and Cavern? Why did everyon start fighting about temporal mastery...?

[Cakeisfun]

Isn't this about the moon sage and Cavern? Why did everyon start fighting about temporal mastery...?

Thank you, I was about to say that.

[darkarts981]

Isn't this about the moon sage and Cavern? Why did everyon start fighting about temporal mastery...?

Lol

[Death Gaara]

I think {temporal mastery}'s real power is unleashed in Legacy where other cards help abuse it more effectively.

^This, temporal is beyond stellar in legacy (see my article discussing the card for more info). But in standard, it does not do enough. What I was trying to state is this.....the only other money card in this set is Temporal Mastery. My point is, it is not worth the money (the OP asked for other cards from the "new set"). When I trade I trade for value. Temporal Mastery is bound to go down in price. I was telling the OP to save those 2 if he is going to play standard, or sell/trade them for legacy staples which will never fall in price (Unlike the Mastery). So my advice was simply, trade your Tamiyo for some Vials, Tops, or fetchlands that will maintain value. Or if modern and other eternal formats are not your thing, save them for standard.