Fake Liliana of the Veils

Started by Codester1991, May 29, 2016, 04:45:39 PM

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Codester1991

Recently purchased 3 LOTV online off of tcgplayer. Traded one in to a store and got a message today saying it was a fake. They did the LED light test. So now I have two other fake Lilis. Have messaged the store informing them about this and hopefully they refund me my money. If they don't I will get with TCGPlayer directly to see if there's any legal action I can take.

redwolv

Ouch, that sucks man. Sorry to hear about that.

Codester1991

Horrible horrible 256.00 hopefully they reimburse me in full.

General kiwi

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Yep it is getting harder and harder to order anything off of tcg player or eBay with all the fakes roaming around

Codester1991

Yes it's ridiculous at this point. Anyone else have this happen to them?

griffin131

I've literally never received a fake.

LinkCelestrial

I had Pokemon cards. They came in a pack and everything. No magic cards that I'm aware of.

particle

I would test the other two that you have. Just because one was fake doesn't guarantee the other two are. It could have slipped past the store just like it slipped past you.

Dstyle1

So you mentioned that you got a full refund, but what was the response of the store?

Was it an honest mistake or a crap we got caught response.

And did u leave a comment about receiving fake cards from them?

Piotr

Quote from: Codester1991 on May 29, 2016, 04:45:39 PM
Recently purchased 3 LOTV online off of tcgplayer.

TCGplayer does not sell cards directly as far as I know, they are just a middle man like our community moderators in Free Trade, albeit unlike the community they charge commission. Which shop did you purchase it from?

Codester1991

All three turned out to be fakes. The store was NovaethMTG and he and I spoke personally and he gave me his number so I could send him proof of the LED tests that i did for the cards. Honestly he seemed like a nice guy who had someone pull one over on him but usually people who pull scams are good actors too. So there's no telling if it was intentional or not. He sent me a refund through PayPal and didn't go through tcgplayer for this, but now tcgplayer is wanting him to refund me again through them but I'm going to just have them drop it. The only thing I found funny about his storefront is the only other card he has for sale is a {Jace the mind sculptor} for 80.00.

Prplprince

Quote from: Codester1991 on June 05, 2016, 12:26:47 PM
All three turned out to be fakes. The store was NovaethMTG and he and I spoke personally and he gave me his number so I could send him proof of the LED tests that i did for the cards. Honestly he seemed like a nice guy who had someone pull one over on him but usually people who pull scams are good actors too. So there's no telling if it was intentional or not. He sent me a refund through PayPal and didn't go through tcgplayer for this, but now tcgplayer is wanting him to refund me again through them but I'm going to just have them drop it. The only thing I found funny about his storefront is the only other card he has for sale is a {Jace the mind sculptor} for 80.00.

Well that's suspicious lol

Estel2931

Quote from: Prplprince on June 05, 2016, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: Codester1991 on June 05, 2016, 12:26:47 PM
All three turned out to be fakes. The store was NovaethMTG and he and I spoke personally and he gave me his number so I could send him proof of the LED tests that i did for the cards. Honestly he seemed like a nice guy who had someone pull one over on him but usually people who pull scams are good actors too. So there's no telling if it was intentional or not. He sent me a refund through PayPal and didn't go through tcgplayer for this, but now tcgplayer is wanting him to refund me again through them but I'm going to just have them drop it. The only thing I found funny about his storefront is the only other card he has for sale is a {Jace the mind sculptor} for 80.00.

Well that's suspicious lol

While it is a little fishy, keep in mind he may be a smaller storefront that is just looking to move popular  higher dollar cards to boost the number of cards he is allowed in his inventory. I'm not sure how many sales he has (I haven't checked him out), but in order to post a lot of items on TCG you have to sell a certain amount first. There are 4 tiers, so if he is only in tier one, he can only post 10 items. Like I said, it is a little fishy, but who knows.

Codester1991

He has 5 sales as of now i believe. As I said earlier he seemed like a very nice person that could've just gotten screwed by someone else. But it's one of those things that we'll never know unless someone buys that Jace and tests it to see if it's a fake as well.

Piotr

I'm more interested in these LED tests. How does it work?