Avacyn

[Noblellama]

Can she transform back?
Can she transform more than once?

[redwolv]

She can not. She has no ability that will revert her. Probably a design choice because of the lore with her and the angels becoming corrupted  avengers.

[Remillo]

Under the current rules, if the transform trigger occurs multiple times, you could transform her (and transform back) depending on the number of triggers.  This precedent is set by an older card, {Thraben Sentry}.

From the rulings: "If multiple creatures you control die simultaneously, Thraben Sentry's ability will trigger that many times. Each time one of those abilities resolves, you may transform the creature, even if it's Thraben Militia at the time."

However, some hints from Matt Tabak (WotC's rules manager) point to something about the way flip cards work may change to prevent this from happening.

[griffin131]

How does that work with Avacyn's delayed trigger? Makes sense with Sentry because the transformation happens immediately, but since Avacyn flips on upkeep do multiple transform triggers stack on upkeep? Assuming current rules.

Yes. Every death creates a delayed trigger.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

How does that work with Avacyn's delayed trigger? Makes sense with Sentry because the transformation happens immediately, but since Avacyn flips on upkeep do multiple transform triggers stack on upkeep? Assuming current rules.

Yes. Every death creates a delayed trigger.

Woah, get 5 triggers on the stack and just go off with Avacyn??? 😮

[imFourth of Phils]

flicker her

[Avnger345]

New rule change for transformation cards


3. No flippy-floppy

I've saved our most technical change for last. Here's the new rule: if a DFC has an activated or triggered ability that transforms it, that permanent transforms only if it hasn't since that ability was put on the stack. What does that mean? For example, say you activate Elusive Tormentor's ability, then you activate it again in response. Why? Because you want to discard a lot of cards. Why? We're almost there. Relax. The first ability to resolve will cause Elusive Tormentor to transform, as expected. But the second ability won't, as Elusive Tormentor has already transformed because of the first ability.

[Kaylesh]

Wizards ruined my combo

[DaxosReturned]

Lol. Sorry about your combo

Ok makes sense; it's like Monstruosity now.

[Kaylesh]

Lol. Sorry about your combo

Ok makes sense; it's like Monstruosity now.

Not entitely. It's more like a transform ability now functions only for that card, with that name. If you check the demonland, for example, it specifically mentions to untap the creature it becomes. To my knowledge, that hadn't been done before.

[Remillo]

Lol. Sorry about your combo

Ok makes sense; it's like Monstruosity now.

Not entitely. It's more like a transform ability now functions only for that card, with that name. If you check the demonland, for example, it specifically mentions to untap the creature it becomes. To my knowledge, that hadn't been done before.

It says:

"Transform ~ and untap it."

This is a change that just makes it so each transformation ability is one-way, and the only way to transform back is by a transformation ability on the other side.