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Started by An Angry Fatman, February 22, 2016, 11:20:12 AM

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An Angry Fatman

Can a {Eldrazi Agressor} be countered with a {Flashfreeze}? Do these devoid cards have a color identity on the stack but not on the field, or is it that the card has no color wherever it is.

Remillo

Quote from: An Angry Fatman on February 22, 2016, 11:20:12 AM
Can a {Eldrazi Agressor} be countered with a {Flashfreeze}? Do these devoid cards have a color identity on the stack but not on the field, or is it that the card has no color wherever it is.

702.113. Devoid

702.113a Devoid is a characteristic-defining ability. "Devoid" means "This object is colorless." This ability functions everywhere, even outside the game

While the cards with devoid may have color identity, they are not colored.

Nymuera

Quote from: Noblellama on February 22, 2016, 12:32:15 PM
Quote from: Remillo on February 22, 2016, 11:32:40 AM
Quote from: An Angry Fatman on February 22, 2016, 11:20:12 AM
Can a {Eldrazi Agressor} be countered with a {Flashfreeze}? Do these devoid cards have a color identity on the stack but not on the field, or is it that the card has no color wherever it is.

702.113. Devoid

702.113a Devoid is a characteristic-defining ability. "Devoid" means "This object is colorless." This ability functions everywhere, even outside the game

While the cards with devoid may have color identity, they are not colored.



does that mean that a devoid spell with a colored mana sybol cannot be used in a colorless commander deck?

Correct the color identity must match that of the commander. An {Inverter of Truth} cannot go into a {Kozilek, the Great Distortion} deck, but can go into a {Skithiryx, Blight Dragon} deck.

Remillo

Quote from: Noblellama on February 22, 2016, 12:32:15 PM
Quote from: Remillo on February 22, 2016, 11:32:40 AM
Quote from: An Angry Fatman on February 22, 2016, 11:20:12 AM
Can a {Eldrazi Agressor} be countered with a {Flashfreeze}? Do these devoid cards have a color identity on the stack but not on the field, or is it that the card has no color wherever it is.

702.113. Devoid

702.113a Devoid is a characteristic-defining ability. "Devoid" means "This object is colorless." This ability functions everywhere, even outside the game

While the cards with devoid may have color identity, they are not colored.



does that mean that a devoid spell with a colored mana sybol cannot be used in a colorless commander deck?

Correct.  Color Identity and Color are totally different things.

Remillo

Quote from: GlowackAttack on February 22, 2016, 03:17:34 PM
however! {TRANSGUILD COURTIER} CAN be in a colorless edh haha isn't that cray

Nope.  It's color identity is WUBRG, but it has a characteristic-defining ability that makes it so.