Oath of the Gatewatch - Spoilers and speculations

Started by MuggyWuggy, September 19, 2015, 12:15:52 PM

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Remillo

Kozilek and Wastes confirmed.  C is the official Shorthand for Colorless, and it's confirmed that they're just making the split between Colorless Mana and Generic Mana more explicit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/3wdtug/the_kozilek_wastes_and_colorless_mana_faq/

Thetrufflehunter

I am surprisingly okay with this. My previous stance was that adding a sixth land type was dumb, but that's not really what they did so i'm okay.

Remillo

Also, our first of the Two-Headed Giant-friendly Spoilers!

Surge is a new mechanic, kinda like Prowl, where you can get additional effects for paying the Surge Cost.  HOWEVER, you can only pay the surge cost if you or a teammate have cast another spell that turn.

http://www.mythicspoiler.com/ogw/cards/crushoftentacles.html

   
Crush of Tentacles
4UU
Sorcery
Surge 3UU (You may cast this spell for its surge cost if you or a teammate has cast another spell this turn.)

Return all nonland permanents to their owners' hands. If Crush of Tentacle's surge cost was paid, put an 8/8 blue Octopus creature token onto the battlefield.

Kaylesh

Nice. String it with {ponder} or another cantrip for a strictly better card. And since it checks cast, you can't prevent it triggering.
The spell itself seems nice in a control deck any way. A more expensive {evacuation} that takes all non-land permanents instead of just creatures. I can see it work in future standard, when Khans/Fate rotates. You don't want to bounce Rhinos.

Johng4490

As a not THG player, would be bummed to pull that at Mythic. Not really my style to start though. Not a blue control player. Would have liked to see a mechanic best in THG, but otherwise achievable.

Kaylesh

Quote from: Johng4490 on December 12, 2015, 01:37:02 PM
As a not THG player, would be bummed to pull that at Mythic. Not really my style to start though. Not a blue control player. Would have liked to see a mechanic best in THG, but otherwise achievable.
You still can. You OR a teammate.

Kaylesh

Quote from: bravado883 on December 12, 2015, 07:24:03 PM
{Evacuation} is an instant. This is cool, but would still generally rather have {Cyclonic Rift} or the like. That being said with WotC being instant-phobic recently this is almost definitely standard-playable.

EDIT: Actually, Remillo, question. Does this work like Miracles; i.e. if you satisfy the condition it ignores timing restrictions? If I cast something on my opponent's turn can I cast this using its Surge cost? It has similar wording to Miracle, so got me wondering...
It seems I misremembered. I thought it was a {2}{U}{U} sorcery. I remember it as being a blue wrath, turns out that's wrong..

On the ruling: as it is worded, it says you may cast it if you cast another spell, so that could point to timing restrictions being ignored. That's pure speculation though, last time I was corrected by the release notes.

Johng4490

Quote from: Kaylesh on December 12, 2015, 01:57:53 PM
Quote from: Johng4490 on December 12, 2015, 01:37:02 PM
As a not THG player, would be bummed to pull that at Mythic. Not really my style to start though. Not a blue control player. Would have liked to see a mechanic best in THG, but otherwise achievable.
You still can. You OR a teammate.
Misread. Hm. Still not my fav mythic, but ok.

imFourth of Phils

new expeds, {Ancient Tomb} and {Forbidden Orchard}

Rass

Mystic gate is on the spoiler page. So ten should be the filter lands.

And the other five tango. Since they said he didn't want to do half print. Then that's all 15

imFourth of Phils

Quote from: Noblellama on December 13, 2015, 10:17:25 AM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on December 13, 2015, 09:53:16 AM
new expeds, {Ancient Tomb} and {Forbidden Orchard}

Link?

im sorry, not yet in mythicspoiler, i just saw posts in MTG international group and in local mtg group

Rass

Quote from: imFourth of Phils on December 13, 2015, 09:53:16 AM
new expeds, {Ancient Tomb} and {Forbidden Orchard}

They are up on mythic spoiler now. I'm surprised.

Thetrufflehunter

Sorta disappointed in the leak. This should have been paced. Content is cool though!

blackychan1

Quote from: bravado883 on December 13, 2015, 11:28:38 PM
Indeed. Early spoilers are bittersweet for me since they detract from actual spoiler season, but I'm still like nom nom nom.

I like these choices. Outside of {Wasteland} and {Horizon Canopy}, most of the other cards are either pretty easy to come by or are one/two-ofs in only a few decks. These are sweet bonus cards, but I don't see people lining up to buy cases for these Expeditions. On the other hand, I want a bunch of these, in my decks, yesterday.
I'm not so sure. People bought worldwake and futuresight for one card. I can see people cracking cases for the Wasteland. (Even though it would be cheaper to just buy them)

Remillo

So, with these expeditions not turning up enemy colored battle lands...

I think the Battle Land cycle will be finished in Shadows because they don't want ACTUAL perfect mana with fetches in the format.