Charged Karn

[Kaylesh]

As requested by {{Deebiia}}, Karn combo with charge counters.

{Karn, Silver Golem} - Commander

Charge Counters

1 {Power Conduit} - the tool to move the counters
1 {Coretapper} - add counters anywhere

1 {Chimeric Egg} - source
1 {Tendo Ice Bridge} - source
1 {Surge Node} source
1 {Umezawa's Jitte} source +
1 {Serum Tank} source / draw
1 {Mirrodin's Core} - source / mana
1 {Sphere of the Suns} - source / mana
1 {Gemstone Array} - source / mana vault
1 {Ventifact Bottle} - source / mana
1 {Kyren Toy} - source / ramp
1 {Everflowing Chalice} source / ramp
1 {Chimeric Mass} - source / fatty
1 {Energy Chamber} - source / pump
1 {Golden Urn} source / life gain
1 {Sun Droplet} source / life gain
1 {Golem Foundry} source / golems
1 {Lightning Coils} - source / elementals
1 {Lux Cannon} source / removal
1 {Ratchet Bomb} source / wipe
1 {Grindclock} - source / mill
1 {Shriekhorn} source / mill
1 {Jinxed Choker} - source / burn / opponent mana sink
1 {Talon of Pain} source / burn
1 {Tumble Magnet} - source / tap

1 {Heliophial} - Burn
1 {Necrogen Censer} - life-loss
1 {Angelheart Vial} - draw
1 {Otherworld Atlas} - draw
1 {Chalice of the Void} - counterspell
1 {Conversion Chamber} - golems. Can be source too.
1 {Door of Destinies} - pump golems / blink moths / foundry workers.
1 {Riptide Replicator} - fatties
1 {Titan Forge} - fatties
1 {Eternity Vessel} - fixed life total
1 {Magistrate's Scepter} - extra turns
1 {Darksteel Reactor} - Win the game

Other combo:
1 {Mycosynth Lattice}
1 {Liquimetal Coating}

1 {Darksteel Forge}
1 {Nevinyrral's Disk}
1 {Coercive Portal} - draw or wipe

1 {Rings of Brighthearth}
1 {Illusionist's Bracers} (second rings)
1 {Basalt Monolith}
1 {Puppet Strings} (with Karn)

1 {Dark Depths}
1 {Thespian's Stage}

Other:
1 {Karn Liberated}
1 {Ugin, the Spirit Dragon}
1 {Skyship Weatherlight} - tutor
1 {kuldotha Forgemaster} - tutor
1 {Rust Tick} - tap lockdown
1 {Kill Switch} - tap lockdown
1 {Voltaic Construct} - untap
1 {Voltaic Key} - untap
1 {Galvanic Key} - untap
1 {Clock of Omens} - untap
1 {Salvaging Station} - recycling
1 {elixir of immortality} - recycling
1 {Crucible of Worlds} - land recycling

Ramp / mana:
1 {Cloud Key} - {1} discount on the deck sounds good
1 {Blinkmoth Urn} - got tools to tap
1 {doubling cube}
1 {Ancient Tomb}
1 {Darksteel Citadel}
1 {Deserted Temple}
1 {Dread Statuary} - manland
1 {Foundry of the Consuls}
1 {Gargoyle Castle}
1 {Mage-Ring Network}
1 {Mishra's Workshop}
1 {Scorched Ruins}
1 {Temple of the False God}

Utility:
1 {Arena}
1 {Crown of Empires}
1 {Scepter of Empires}
1 {Throne of Empires}
1 {Blinkmoth Nexus}
1 {Inkmoth Nexus}
1 {Buried Ruin}
1 {Vesuva}
1 {Desert}
1 {Diamond Valley}
1 {Halls of Mist}
1 {Haven of the Spirit Dragon} - Ugin
1 {Island of Wak-Wak}
1 {Maze of Ith}
1 {Mikokoro, Center of the Sea}
1 {Miren, the Moaning Well}
1 {Mishra's Factory}
1 {Mystifying Maze}
1 {Reliquary Tower}
1 {Rishadan Port}
1 {Stalking Stones}
1 {The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale}
1 {Tomb of the Spirit Dragon}
1 {Wasteland}

[Munchlax]

Explain the combo please

[Kaylesh]

Explain the combo please

Updated the post to make it all somewhat more readable.

Basic wincon is to stack charge counters on {darksteel reactor} To achieve that we have a bunch of locks, destruction and a whole toolkit of stuff that uses charge counters.
Toolbox includes infinite mana, destruction, lockdown, land destruction (animate into 0/0), counter lock with charge counters is possible early game.


Needs tuning, I even found a {library of Alexandria} in the list (now removed), but it gives a general idea of what I try to do.

[Munchlax]

Explain the combo please

Updated the post to make it all somewhat more readable.

Basic wincon is to stack charge counters on {darksteel foundry}. To achieve that we have a bunch of locks, destruction and a whole toolkit of stuff that uses charge counters.
Toolbox includes infinite mana, destruction, lockdown, land destruction (animate into 0/0), counter lock with charge counters is possible early game.


Needs tuning, I even found a {library of Alexandria} in the list (now removed), but it gives a general idea of what I try to do.

That's actually kinda cool

[Kaylesh]

Apparently it's a new way of winning, where I thought every "you win" card would have been exploited.

As I said, if you really want to abuse, just go Arcum. This could explode just as hard though, since I estimate quite the load of mana available for shenanigans.

[Kaylesh]

I really need to RTFC....
Only just realized {power conduit} lets you use ANY counter. So walker Karn can also be used as a battery with his +4, as can modular creatures or storage lands, though I think I have included the colorless..
Great thing about the modular angle is that I can also manipulate their counters with conduit.
{hangarback walker} would be a nice source, as would  {Steel Overseer}..
But the flavor of Karn manipulating this huge foundry system, powering it to fabricate a win..

[DanM69]

Why not run Sydri or Vorel at the helm? You'd have access to blue artifact goodstuff and charging takes half the time using Vorel

[Kaylesh]

Why not run Sydri or Vorel at the helm? You'd have access to blue artifact goodstuff and charging takes half the time using Vorel

Flavor. That's the only reason.
I started out with: let's make a Karn deck.
Started out with the basic control elements, then discovered the charge counters element, and that if you manipulate counters you can do pretty much anything.
There would be commanders who would abuse this more, that's true. But, the flavor is SO strong in this one. And Karn has this lovely combo with lattice: {1}: kill land. Which gives you some time.

[Kaylesh]

Now I actually want to use some of this in my existing Kurkesh. It is a voltron / artifact hybrid, so don't want to devote too many slots. Any suggestions on what to include (besides Jitte, which is kinda out of budget.)

EDIT:

{angelheart vial}
{power conduit}
{coretapper}
{darksteel reactor}
are all in, since with the copy ability, vial can negate any damage and draw me cards, and the others enable the wincon.
What could be others?

EDIT2: {dismantle} comes in onakke as well.

[JordanCirk]

This deck is so sweet. If I wanted to convert this over to  {Daretti, Scrap Savant} Instead, how would I go about doing so? And is there red cards that would work better/ help the cause?

[LinkCelestrial]

This deck is so sweet. If I wanted to convert this over to  {Daretti, Scrap Savant} Instead, how would I go about doing so? And is there red cards that would work better/ help the cause?

{Dismantel} comes to mind.

[Kaylesh]

This deck is so sweet. If I wanted to convert this over to  {Daretti, Scrap Savant} Instead, how would I go about doing so? And is there red cards that would work better/ help the cause?

{Dismantel} comes to mind.

{dismantle} could get you instant win just like that with {eternity vessel} and life total over 20.
On that note, red has quite a bit of copy instant/sorcery. Have yourself an indestructible artifact with counters and just blast it with dismantle over and over.

[JordanCirk]

This deck is so sweet. If I wanted to convert this over to  {Daretti, Scrap Savant} Instead, how would I go about doing so? And is there red cards that would work better/ help the cause?

{Dismantel} comes to mind.

{dismantle} could get you instant win just like that with {eternity vessel} and life total over 20.
On that note, red has quite a bit of copy instant/sorcery. Have yourself an indestructible artifact with counters and just blast it with dismantle over and over.

That's awesome haha. Thanks! I'm gnna have to look into this for sure.