Alhammarret's archive

Started by Crossed, July 20, 2015, 02:37:43 AM

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Crossed

I'm sure most of us have seen the origins standard turbo fog. I'm trying to understand a few interactions involving {alhammarret's archive}

If a spell would allow you to draw 3 cards, like {treasure cruise} would you draw an additional card for each card drawn with a total draw of 6 cards?

Also, with cards giving you additional draws, such as {dictate of kruphix} would you draw for dictate, draw for your draw phase, and draw and card for archive for a total of 3 cards?

Remillo

Quote from: Crossed on July 20, 2015, 02:37:43 AM
I'm sure most of us have seen the origins standard turbo fog. I'm trying to understand a few interactions involving {alhammarret's archive}

If a spell would allow you to draw 3 cards, like {treasure cruise} would you draw an additional card for each card drawn with a total draw of 6 cards?

Also, with cards giving you additional draws, such as {dictate of kruphix} would you draw for dictate, draw for your draw phase, and draw and card for archive for a total of 3 cards?

Yes, on both accounts.  The archive will effectively double the cards that you draw.  When we resolve effects that say "Draw X cards", we essentially resolve it as the action "Draw a card", but X times.  For each of these draw actions, the Archive will say "Hey, this isn't the first card you draw during your draw step on your turn.  Have two cards instead!" and replace it with drawing two for each one that you would have drawn.  This, of course, applies to any draw that happens, such as a draw spell or "howling mine effects" (like the Dictate of Kruphix), EXCEPT for the card you draw as a turn-based action at the beginning of your draw step.

Splicer

Lemme just put this {Sphinx's revelation} here...

Kaylesh

Quote from: CbStrad on July 20, 2015, 10:57:26 AM
Quote from: Splicer on July 20, 2015, 10:38:46 AM
Lemme just put this {Sphinx's revelation} here...
Right, cuz that card wasn't dumb enough already...
Lemme just flash in {tainted remedy} just to end it.

Remillo

Funny thing about that...  Replacement effects are applied in the order the effected player or effected object's controller chooses.  Let's say I control an Archive and you control a Tainted Remedy, and I cast a Sphinx's Revelation for X=30 (for sake of argument, I have 60 life).  As the person whose life gain is being modified by these effects, I can choose to apply either Archive first (double to 60 gained, changed to 60 lost) or the Remedy first (change to 30 lost, then archive does nothing as you're not gaining life).  Drawing 60 cards for 30 life seems okay, I'd think!

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