Esper Control

Started by bravado883, March 03, 2015, 01:25:39 PM

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bravado883


Esper Control

60 cards, 15 sideboard


4 {Temple of Deceit}
4 {Temple of Enlightenment}
2 {Swamp}
2 {Dismal Backwater}
1 {Caves of Koilos}
1 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}
4 {Polluted Delta}
3 {Island}
4 {Temple of Silence}

25 lands


2 {Silumgar, the Drifting Death}
2 {Dragonlord Ojutai}

4 creatures


4 {Silumgar's Scorn}
3 {Crux of Fate}
1 {Foul-Tongue Invocation}
2 {Narset Transcendent}
4 {Dig Through Time}
1 {Utter End}
4 {Anticipate}
4 {Hero's Downfall}
4 {Dissolve}
3 {Ultimate Price}
1 {Bile Blight}

31 other spells


Sideboard

1 {Ultimate Price}
1 {Dragonlord Silumgar}
1 {Utter End}
1 {Self-Inflicted Wound}
4 {Drown in Sorrow}
1 {Narset Transcendent}
1 {Foul-Tongue Invocation}
1 {Pearl Lake Ancient}
1 {Virulent Plague}
1 {Dragonlord's Prerogative}
2 {Negate}

15 sideboard cards



Notes:


LinkCelestrial

I like {Jave, Architect of Thought}. He is a fantastic sponge especially vs wide strategies and he can draw cards very nicely if you're stable. His ult is also quite good. {Esper Charm} is some nice utility.

Prplprince

I think you need at least one more if not two  {Sphinx's Revelation}. Also you need to be careful with  {Go for the Throat} Because affinity is a thing and you would be drawing dead if you got it.

LinkCelestrial

{Hero's Downfall} is very under rated in modern IMO. If you want a two CMC spell {Go For the Throat} is the best one. Just have SB slots to swap it out like you've already planned with {Stony Silence}.

If you only hit 6-7 lands with a control deck you might be doing it wrong.

Try him as a one of. He did not disappoint. Worst case scenario {Esper Charm} is instant speed {Divination}. Seems good to me.

The mana base looks like you lose to {Blood Moon} every game. IMO the Modern mana base right now should consist of shocks, fetches, a couple utility lands and basics just due to how prevalent {Blood Moon} is. IMO the Innistrad check lands are better than the Mirridion....what are they called? If I were you my mana base would look more like,

{Polluted Delta}
{Flooded Strand}
As the fetches split by availability and symbols as needed. I picked these two because they can fetch all the shocks you'll be running and they're recently reprinted (Read: easily accessible and cheap) If you have {Marsh Flats} feel free to run it.

I'd probably run 5-8 fetches in any combination of the ones above.

{Watery Grave}
{Hallowed Fountain}
{Godless Shrine}
Split by symbols. I'd be running around 7-9 total.

{Creeping Tar Pit}
Souly because it doubles as a win con. 1-2

{Tectonic Edge}
You have it on your list and you know why. I sometimes prefer {Ghost Quarter} but up to you.

{Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}
Because it smooths out your mana and it looks like you already have one.

{Island}
{Plains}
{Swamp}
As needed.

Depending on how prevalent {Blood Moon} is {Disenchant} and lean on {Plains}.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: bravado883 on March 03, 2015, 06:46:06 PM
You're right, {Blood Moon} is scary. Luckily not too many people around here play it, but I lose if it resolves. However, adding up your suggested lands, even using the minimum numbers suggested, doesn't really leave me with a functional mana base if {Blood Moon} happens, and it makes the deck slightly more inconsistent in other matchups. If I start seeing {Blood Moon} around that could change, and either way I'll definitely be adding {Disenchant} or {Erase} (I know the one has added utility, but it costs 1 more and gets hit by {Spell Snare}, so I'll have to see).

The reason I've been rocking {Darkslick Shores} is so I can T1 {Inquisition of Kozilek} without shocking myself, but maybe the 2 damage T1 isn't a big deal; I could run more {Watery Graves}, cut the fastlands and put in a couple more checks.

Sounds good to me. If you're not seeing {Blood Moon} I'm jealous.

fj76ts4

look dude

you're playing esper, you gotta run {esper charm}s, they do too much to not include

things you do with esper charm:

instant speed discard 2 in their draw phase is hilarious, especially if you're ahead on cards
instant speed draw 2 is never bad
kills blood moon dead

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: fj76ts4 on March 03, 2015, 10:54:11 PM
look dude

you're playing esper, you gotta run {esper charm}s, they do too much to not include

things you do with esper charm:

instant speed discard 2 in their draw phase is hilarious, especially if you're ahead on cards
instant speed draw 2 is never bad
kills blood moon dead

Assuming you have a plains, island and swamp. Right? WRONG! Tap for the mana as the spell is on the stack and smack that {Blood Moon} out of the sky with your {Feminine Charm}! Er. {Esper Charm}.

Codester1991

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 03, 2015, 11:44:06 PM
Quote from: fj76ts4 on March 03, 2015, 10:54:11 PM
look dude

you're playing esper, you gotta run {esper charm}s, they do too much to not include

things you do with esper charm:

instant speed discard 2 in their draw phase is hilarious, especially if you're ahead on cards
instant speed draw 2 is never bad
kills blood moon dead

Assuming you have a plains, island and swamp. Right? WRONG! Tap for the mana as the spell is on the stack and smack that {Blood Moon} out of the sky with your {Feminine Charm}! Er. {Esper Charm}.
I don't wanna sound stupid but uhh...

How bout just side boarding {erase}'s?

fj76ts4

Quote from: Codester1991 on March 04, 2015, 12:46:44 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 03, 2015, 11:44:06 PM
Quote from: fj76ts4 on March 03, 2015, 10:54:11 PM
look dude

you're playing esper, you gotta run {esper charm}s, they do too much to not include

things you do with esper charm:

instant speed discard 2 in their draw phase is hilarious, especially if you're ahead on cards
instant speed draw 2 is never bad
kills blood moon dead

Assuming you have a plains, island and swamp. Right? WRONG! Tap for the mana as the spell is on the stack and smack that {Blood Moon} out of the sky with your {Feminine Charm}! Er. {Esper Charm}.
I don't wanna sound stupid but uhh...

How bout just side boarding {erase}'s?

the problem with erase is that it's way too narrow, esper charm does a lot of stuff and is maindeckable to boot

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: bravado883 on March 04, 2015, 09:59:34 AM
Just don't like it guys. There's not much {Blood Moon} where I am; {Esper Charm} doesn't hit it on the draw anyway. I like discard in the format right now, but not when I can't see what they've got; there's a lot of Abzan Aggro around and I'd rather not have people discarding {Loxodon Smiter} and {Wilt-Leaf Liege} on me. I don't really need more card draw, though I am considering the singleton {Jace, Architect of Thought} as was previously mentioned. Appreciate the suggestion though.

Fair enough. I highly recommend trying {Jace, Architect of Thought}. He has been very good and earned himself two slots in my Jeskai Counterburn deck.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: bravado883 on March 11, 2015, 01:12:53 AM
Updated after playing some more on MTGO.

Sideboard looks a bit inconsistent. Otherwise how has it been?

Kaalia with haste

There is a disturbing lack of {nephalia drownyards} in this list

DimirOverlord1300

Quote from: Kaalia with haste on March 11, 2015, 11:47:23 AM
There is a disturbing lack of {nephalia drownyards} in this list
It's baaaaaaaad

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 11, 2015, 01:29:02 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on March 11, 2015, 11:47:23 AM
There is a disturbing lack of {nephalia drownyards} in this list
It's baaaaaaaad

{Creeping Tar Pit} is far superior.

Kaalia with haste

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 11, 2015, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 11, 2015, 01:29:02 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on March 11, 2015, 11:47:23 AM
There is a disturbing lack of {nephalia drownyards} in this list
It's baaaaaaaad

{Creeping Tar Pit} is far superior.
I'm probably wrong here but I like drownyards because they will never die ever, path to exile? Nope. Electrolyze? Nope. Lightning bolt? Nope. Just my preference