Jeskai Counterburn

[Munchlax]

Halimar depths is bad

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[LinkCelestrial]

-3 deprive
-1 logic knot

+4 mana leak in my opinion

I've never had any luck with {Mana Leak}. I tried it earlier and it was just too inconsistent. Also, {Logic Knot} is quite possibly one of the best cards in here.

Halimar depths is bad

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Would you prefer I played a temple? It's actually quite nice and helps squeeze some value out of {Deprive}.

Ultimating against infect is classic win more, you're a deck full of removal, you don't need Jace. There's better card draw, and better walkers (Ajani Venjeant spring to mind). Also agree that Halimars depths is bad

/He doesn't need to ult to be good/. I have never regret casting him. He has preformed very well in this deck, I have no reason to remove him.

This deck might get an edit at some point. I prefer my Bant Superfriends list still though.

[MuggyWuggy]

Boros charm? Protect your permanents on the battlefield

[DimirOverlord1300]

-3 deprive
-1 logic knot

+4 mana leak in my opinion

I've never had any luck with {Mana Leak}. I tried it earlier and it was just too inconsistent. Also, {Logic Knot} is quite possibly one of the best cards in here.

Halimar depths is bad

This

Would you prefer I played a temple? It's actually quite nice and helps squeeze some value out of {Deprive}.

Ultimating against infect is classic win more, you're a deck full of removal, you don't need Jace. There's better card draw, and better walkers (Ajani Venjeant spring to mind). Also agree that Halimars depths is bad

/He doesn't need to ult to be good/. I have never regret casting him. He has preformed very well in this deck, I have no reason to remove him.

This deck might get an edit at some point. I prefer my Bant Superfriends list still though.

Tapped lands in general are bad. Value off of deprive isn't bouncing a land with an ETB, it's bouncing a basic that you have and playing it next turn because you don't have another land in hand. That's value enough, you don't need more. Counter spell is already amazing.

[Munchlax]

Yeah dude just play pain lands over it even I mean seriously it's not a good card in a deck like this. After all you are playing tempo

[LinkCelestrial]

It's not that huge a deal honestly. I understand the concept but in practice it has been fine.

[Munchlax]

It's not that huge a deal honestly. I understand the concept but in practice it has been fine.

What have you been playing against where that's been fine?

[LinkCelestrial]

Recently I've been focused on other decks. Infect, jank, RDW, burn and Tron were played against without {Halimar Depths} being my downfall.

[LinkCelestrial]

A bump for Saulon. It's in need of an update, may get one soon.

[Saulon]

Great deck, I don't usually like  {Deprive} but it fits good, what about  {Remand}? Also cards like  {Gitaxian Probe} or  {Mutagenic Growth} with phyrexian mana can help both with control and burn,  in my opinion it can be risky but also effective

[LinkCelestrial]

Great deck, I don't usually like  {Deprive} but it fits good, what about  {Remand}? Also cards like  {Gitaxian Probe} or  {Mutagenic Growth} with phyrexian mana can help both with control and burn,  in my opinion it can be risky but also effective

I talk about {Remand} on the first page. It's pretty lengthy so I'll recommend you just check it out.

{Gitaxian Probe} could be good but I'd kinda prefer {Peek} for the instant speed. {Mutagenic Growth} would just be bad in here.

[DimirOverlord1300]

Mentor and young pyro are terrible here. In a control deck you can't tap out for a mentor or pyro early because then your opponent decides to resolve their lilly/siege rhino/coco/twin and you become not alive. If you're not casting it until turn 4-5 then why not just play celestial colonnade or ojutai or anything else? Hell, ætherling is probably better in a modern control deck than either of them.

[LinkCelestrial]

Mentor and young pyro are terrible here. In a control deck you can't tap out for a mentor or pyro early because then your opponent decides to resolve their lilly/siege rhino/coco/twin and you become not alive. If you're not casting it until turn 4-5 then why not just play celestial colonnade or ojutai or anything else? Hell, ætherling is probably better in a modern control deck than either of them.

Because an {AEtherling} comes down turn 8+ and requires another mana investment every turn. {Young Pyromancer} and {Monastery Mentor} are amazing in here. They crank value out of pretty much all of my spells. Casting them turn 4-5 is fine. It has worked very well for me. If you think it's bad I highly recommend you give it a try.

[LinkCelestrial]

Bump.

[Splicer]

This list looks like so much fun to play. Have you considered {Leyline of Sanctity} for the board?