Modern Masters 2015 (Speculation and Spoilers)

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Falcon182

Quote from: Taysby on December 30, 2014, 10:47:12 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 30, 2014, 09:36:47 PM
TC is meta warping and unconditionally good, Jace is easy to deal with. You can't attack TC and kill it, and TC doesn't cost {2}{U}{U}.
Jace would be meta-warping and unconditionally good. Just look at all its play in legacy.
Easy to deal with?  In almost any deck with have there will be counters and first thing you'll do with him is dig 3 deep
Tc doesn't always cost 3, and you'll probably not be casting it for 1 on turn 4.

There is only one tier one deck that plays jace and a few fringe decks. He's not that format warping.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Taysby on December 30, 2014, 10:47:12 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 30, 2014, 09:36:47 PM
TC is meta warping and unconditionally good, Jace is easy to deal with. You can't attack TC and kill it, and TC doesn't cost {2}{U}{U}.
Jace would be meta-warping and unconditionally good. Just look at all its play in legacy.
Easy to deal with?  In almost any deck with have there will be counters and first thing you'll do with him is dig 3 deep
Tc doesn't always cost 3, and you'll probably not be casting it for 1 on turn 4.
Jace isn't really played that much in legacy anymore, really just Miracles and fringe play in Stoneblade decks (although most successful ones are now running {Young Pyromancer} and {Treasure Cruise} instead).
If you are playing it with Counterspell back up, you are going to be waiting for turns 6-8 (because {Spell Pierce} isn't usually effective on turn 5, {Mana Leak} isn't great turn 6, so you will usually need {Remand} on turn 6 or {Cryptic Command} on turn 8.
If you dig three, it dies to bolt, and if you plus it dies to Bolt/Snap or even Snap, Bolt, untap attack. Not to mention there are decks like that play cards such as {Lingering Souls} which is incredible against JTMS.

Ultimately, as power creep keeps ticking up, Jace will become worse and worse and JTMS will eventually be unbanned, I am not going to argue any more though.

blackychan1

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 30, 2014, 11:05:19 PM
Quote from: Taysby on December 30, 2014, 10:47:12 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 30, 2014, 09:36:47 PM
TC is meta warping and unconditionally good, Jace is easy to deal with. You can't attack TC and kill it, and TC doesn't cost {2}{U}{U}.
if you plus it dies to Bolt/Snap or even Snap, Bolt, untap attack.
Thats's a lot of cards/tempo to devote to killing one permanent.....

Spikepit


NovusOrbis


Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: NovusOrbis on January 04, 2015, 07:50:46 PM
More spoilers after FR finishes?
Dragons of Tarikir comes out first (March), so unless something leaked, probably not.

Disturbed1jwh

I'm hoping for the filter lands from the lorwyn block

Spikepit

Quote from: Disturbed1jwh on January 10, 2015, 09:59:08 AM
I'm hoping for the filter lands from the lorwyn block
Seconded. I need me a {Flooded Grove} bad for three separate EDH decks and a {Rugged Prairie} for two others!

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Spikepit on January 10, 2015, 07:31:58 PM
Quote from: Disturbed1jwh on January 10, 2015, 09:59:08 AM
I'm hoping for the filter lands from the lorwyn block
Seconded. I need me a {Flooded Grove} bad for three separate EDH decks and a {Rugged Prairie} for two others!
They are EDH staples that see modern and legacy play, I want them in a standard set, not modern masters. I am hoping for {Grove of the Burnwillows} though, because I can't see that getting reprinted in standard.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

How does the B/R affect Modern Masters 2015? There were a lot of people speculating on {Birthing Pod} and {Linvala, Keeper of Silence} in the set, and depending on when the set was finalized, they could still be in there.

DimirOverlord1300

Idk I feel like if it was finalized with pod in it they'd take it out

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on January 19, 2015, 11:02:25 PM
Idk I feel like if it was finalized with pod in it they'd take it out
It could likely have already been printed, Modern Masters is only a few months away.

cltrn81

Quote from: GlowackAttack on January 19, 2015, 11:35:53 PM
The biggest duck you from wizards ever -    reprint pod parts but ban pod. Oh you opened a foil Melira??? Let me just stomp on your day, thanks for your 30$ to open this pack kid
True Dat

Munchlax

Quote from: GlowackAttack on January 19, 2015, 11:35:53 PM
The biggest duck you from wizards ever -    reprint pod parts but ban pod. Oh you opened a foil Melira??? Let me just stomp on your day, thanks for your 30$ to open this pack kid
I had a foil Melira for a while. {Melira Sylvok Outcast}

Teysa karlov

I'm going to be buying a box from Waterstones. It's a book stop that sells magic at rrp. So no over priced bull.