Disenchant

[Dudecore]

I'm not so sure {Delver of Secrets} was a color pie violation. Blue can have good creatures, and it is tied into things blue cards about - Instants and Sorceries. Now, while it seems abstract considering how many decks have been built around the card - it is very different in essence then other creatures. You see, any deck that can play Green can jam {Thragtusk} or {Tarmogoyf}. While any deck that plays blue can't jam {Delver of Secrets}. That point seems void considering Delver is now an archetype of deck, the distinction is still true.

The line is at least much finer in that regard. Delver doesn't represent a super powerful creature, it is in and of itself a card a deck must be built around. Which there is no reason to be surprised it worked out and is the favored card these days. Delver and Goyf are also in a strange way healthy for the format - because they let fair decks put a clock on unfair decks. It's just like how {Force of Will} in Legacy keeps 10+ cards off the banned list because there is a suitable answer to keep them honest. Obviously it's not the best state of affairs, but Wizards has been making new cards for 21+ years, its pretty amazing the game made it this far considering. But an easy way to destroy the game is ignoring the color pie. Pushing cards is one thing, pushing them on the wrong color is another.

[Langku]

I must agree with dudecore's reservations with those cards but I still can't get over how flavorful that {song of the dryads} is. Maybe if it was a {U}{G} to encompass the transmogrify/lock down mechanic.

[MuggyWuggy]

Would polar bears be blue or green?

[Dudecore]

Color shifting is fine, as long as it doesn't fundementally allow a color to do something it's never done before. The problem with {Swords to Plowshares} or {Path to Exile} is that it allows white to have an extremely efficient, difficult to answer card that it has no business having. White exile is {Oblivion Ring}, {Banishing Light} and {Fiend Hunter}. Swords was made originally before the concept of an overarching color pie. It was also made by Richard Garfield, while a genius designer is perhaps not the world's greatest developer. Path is an homage to Swords...which is no longer a white card.

Blue has had the roughest road through the entirety of Magic. At one point it's done just about everything. Red was underpowered for so long because direct damage wasn't fairly costed (save for {Lightning Bolt} designed by Richard...) Blue and Red have swapped many abilities. But Red doesn't get card advantage anymore. It either loots (by discarding first, then draw a card) or the new Impulsive Draw (like {Chandra, Pyromaster}).

My point is, blue is unreliable as a case study for color pie adherence. It has stabilized over the past 2 or so years, loaned out some of its abilities and some adjustments to power level. Magic does have to change to keep the game going, but {Song of the Dryads} and {Chaos Warp} will sooner ruin the game then save it.

[Mattao19]

As much as I dislike both song and chaos. I don't mind them in EDH. Bc they're a 1-of and it sucks for my friend who runs {Krenko, Mob Boss} how he can't deal with some stuff but now he can I find it fine.

Song I kinda really dislike bc creature removal is not what {G} is about even if it temporary with a drawback.

Btw shouldn't the song art be Groot? Bc that's almost what you're doing lol

[MuggyWuggy]

 {Pale Bears}

Guess polar bears stay green but that islandwok!

[redwolv]

{Pale Bears}

Guess polar bears stay green but that islandwok!

They should be white though

[Dudecore]

Green polar bears with islandwalk is oozing with flavor.

[Cender]

Isn't song of the Dryads a card that can break up permanents? Which is the new green thing that green has been doing alot? Perhaps it should be a non creature permanent...

Correct. Green can destroy non-creature permanents. But for creatures, they need to rely on going big and beefy.

[Dudecore]

It should be non-creature in the same way {Chaos Warp} should be non-enchantment. Green destroys creatures by putting a bigger creature infront of it, or Fight.

[The1337Magician]

So Dudecore, what is wrong with white exile like Swords and Path? I think it is very much in the flavor of white and has never been part of another color that I can think of.
I think Swords mechanic and {Fiend Hunter} are different entirely.
Would you rather something like {Condemn}?

[Dudecore]

White isn't supposed to have the most efficient removal. That is black, and to a smaller degree red. White is the color of answers, it's answers have answers. It's only the "flavor" of white because it was printed before the color pie meant anything. {Banishing Light}, {Oblivion Ring} and the like are white removal. {Pacifism} and {Arrest}. Not simply the best removal spell in the game. No color should have {Swords to Plowshares}, it raises the bar so high by simply making the next best possible removal spell {0} Exile target creature.

It's a power level issue as well as being a color violation. If they could redesign Magic from scratch, I'd guarantee {Swords to Plowshares} would not be a card. Same with the Dual lands. They're simply too good, too soon, with no drawbacks and make for uncreative deck construction.

[The1337Magician]

Dual lands as in ABUR or all lands that tap for more than one color?

[Mattao19]

Dual lands as in ABUR or all lands that tap for more than one color?

ABUR

[Dudecore]

ABUR lands. The shocks are awesome, and creative, and have a drawback. No one probably thought Magic would make it this far, and it may not have without the Power 9 and Dual Lands, one cannot know. I just know that the current age of Magic design would not violate the drawback of running multiple colors by having lands with basic land types and no draw backs. It would basically remove any because to not play 2 colors, make 3 colors remarkably easy.

Also, {Swords to Plowshares} was made a long time ago, if it was made today Wizards would never hear the end of it. If you try to imagine that Wizards printed {Swords to Plowshares} in like Avacyn Restored or something, the absolute crapstorm it would cause. It might even damage the game very much. But we don't live in that continuity.