Dragons of Tarkir (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)

Started by Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth, November 01, 2014, 09:00:40 PM

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MuggyWuggy

$8 preorders for shaman of meh (Carytid is better)
$8 AZ cryptic

Both doubled in price tody since announced this AM

DirtyMustachio


MuggyWuggy

I'm personally not a fan of him, he won't be allowed in EDH (biorhythm is banned, so by that logic they would ban him too)

3 mana for a 2/3 double mana dork seems good for a t1elf deck, but everything else just seems like there are better options. Sure you get two mana, but for the 3 slot, unless you are gr monsters, i would think most would prefer courser

Stoneco1d869

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 03, 2015, 03:52:31 PM
$8 preorders for shaman of meh (Carytid is better)
$8 AZ cryptic

Both doubled in price tody since announced this AM

Where do you guys see the cryptics value at??

MuggyWuggy

Scg preorder for dragons of tarkir

Not actual cryptic command, but a card very similar that has been previewed

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 03, 2015, 03:56:41 PM
I'm personally not a fan of him, he won't be allowed in EDH (biorhythm is banned, so by that logic they would ban him too)

3 mana for a 2/3 double mana dork seems good for a t1elf deck, but everything else just seems like there are better options. Sure you get two mana, but for the 3 slot, unless you are gr monsters, i would think most would prefer courser

Going to have to agree. He'd be sick in EDH but he will be banned. He's not going to see too much standard play with {Sylvan Caryatid}, {Rattleclaw Mystic} and {Whisperer of the Wilds} clamouring for your non {Elvish Mystic} mana dork slots. If it wasn't creature only he'd be quite a bit better.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Taysby on March 03, 2015, 04:06:14 PM
I'm actually not sure he'll be banned in edh. Biorhythm is good because {wrath of god} into it, which you can't do with him. (Unless I'm missing a janky combo)

{Darksteel Plate}, ect ect.

MuggyWuggy

Nah he will be broken, every EDH deck runs wipes and swiftboots

Wipe

Drop guy
Boots
Tap and win game

It just makes no sense of why they would allow a biorhythm creature and not biorhythm.

MuggyWuggy

Then simic would be amazing in EDH

Cyc rift
Play his ability.

I dunno about him still, he just seems suiuuuuuper janky. Perhaps the next blocks will make more sense with him

MacheteMable

I think you people are nuts on the command hype train. It's "good" but not great

MuggyWuggy

It's definitely getting its hype, was considering preordering at $4 and now they are $8 each with 10 left on scg as of 122pm PST. Pretty sure these will keep rising, then neutralizing blast will become a thing

DimirOverlord1300

Quote from: Taysby on March 03, 2015, 04:34:06 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 03, 2015, 04:17:16 PM
Then simic would be amazing in EDH

Cyc rift
Play his ability.

I dunno about him still, he just seems suiuuuuuper janky. Perhaps the next blocks will make more sense with him
If you have 8 power on the board, can rift AND use his ability on the same turn, you deserve to win. :P
Not hard in UG

MacheteMable

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 03, 2015, 04:22:53 PM
It's definitely getting its hype, was considering preordering at $4 and now they are $8 each with 10 left on scg as of 122pm PST. Pretty sure these will keep rising, then neutralizing blast will become a thing
they'll rise till people realize they're not as good as they hoped. Then they'll crash.

This one is a lot like the non-cryptic commands from lorwyn.

I really wanna see the ub one though.

MuggyWuggy

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 03, 2015, 04:37:40 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 03, 2015, 04:34:06 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 03, 2015, 04:17:16 PM
Then simic would be amazing in EDH

Cyc rift
Play his ability.

I dunno about him still, he just seems suiuuuuuper janky. Perhaps the next blocks will make more sense with him
If you have 8 power on the board, can rift AND use his ability on the same turn, you deserve to win. :P
Not hard in UG

Kruphix would be ridiculous.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: bravado883 on March 03, 2015, 04:45:01 PM
I'm not sure why they're so expensive, but for UW Control I haven't heard an argument against the card that I agree with--it's an automatic 2-of, no questions asked. It's my favorite card spoiled BY FAR.

Still, a 2-of in a Tier 2 standard deck won't support an $8 price tag for long. Unless UW Control gets really big or someone figures out a way to make this work in modern, my guess is this card will settle in around $2-3.

The {Snapcaster Mage} synergies are pretty sweet. But agreed.