A Little Experiment...

Started by Gorzo, October 21, 2014, 09:14:43 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

LinkCelestrial

{Acidic Slime}
{Aeon Chronicler}
{Hydra Omnivore}
{Hornet Nest}
{Sagu Mauler}
{Pelakka Wurm}

All creatures I'd cut they don't really fit the theme.

Gorzo

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on October 24, 2014, 05:43:28 PM
{Acidic Slime}
{Aeon Chronicler}
{Hydra Omnivore}
{Hornet Nest}
{Sagu Mauler}
{Pelakka Wurm}

All creatures I'd cut they don't really fit the theme.

Sagu mauler is cut. Hornet nest I think I have to cut as well, yeah. As hilarious as a huge hornet nest with +1 counters on it is, You're right.

The others are tougher. Aeon chronicler is card draw. Hydra omnivore and pelakka Wurm are both just simply amazing EDH creatures.

Acidic slime I won't cut. I don't care that it doesn't fit a theme. It fits any deck with green in it, because it's insanely useful :P

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Gorzo on October 25, 2014, 03:46:13 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on October 24, 2014, 05:43:28 PM
{Acidic Slime}
{Aeon Chronicler}
{Hydra Omnivore}
{Hornet Nest}
{Sagu Mauler}
{Pelakka Wurm}

All creatures I'd cut they don't really fit the theme.

Sagu mauler is cut. Hornet nest I think I have to cut as well, yeah. As hilarious as a huge hornet nest with +1 counters on it is, You're right.

The others are tougher. Aeon chronicler is card draw. Hydra omnivore and pelakka Wurm are both just simply amazing EDH creatures.

Acidic slime I won't cut. I don't care that it doesn't fit a theme. It fits any deck with green in it, because it's insanely useful :P

As great as it is it's not the "theme" of the deck. Same goes for omnivore and Pelakka. When I'm down to this in the cuts it's the good but out of theme cards that go bye bye. I like to think it my decks are better for it.

Then why no {Bramblecrush}? (Totally underrated removal spell). {Acidic Slime} is good, yes, but you're not blinking it or tutoring it. Just sayin.

Gorzo

I get what you're saying, but bramblecrush is a 1-for-1, whereas acidic slime is almost always a 2-for-1 by being a deathtoucher, even if it's just by forcing out removal. Plus I can get it back when I name creature with {Creeping Renaissance}, and can toss counters on him to up his threat level. Worst case scenario, he chump blocks, which is still more than I get from bramblecrush. Granted, acidic slime can't destroy walkers, but still.

The theme is great and all, but I still need "good stuff" as a sub theme, and slime definitely fits that one, you know? :P

As for omnivore and chronicler... Chronicler is easy enough to find out. I need to look deeper into my ability to draw in the deck. If it can keep a hand filled, he can be cut, if it struggles with cards, I can't afford to lose a good draw spell. Makes sense, right? Omnivore is just omnivore. A hilarity-value card, and gets even more funny as I put counters on it. And have you ever seen Hydra Omnivore or Pelakka Wurm get hit by {Rite of Replication} w/ kicker? It's... It's a wonderful sight to behold. :D

The1337Magician

Maybe {Loxodon Warhammer}, {Bow of Nylea} and {Awakening Zone}. They're all good cards but don't fit the theme too well.
The hammer is good b/c of lifelink but I feel like you could do without it.
The bow is basically {1}{G} Put a +1/+1 counter on a creature. You can do better.
Awakening Zone is good with token doublets, but I think you have plenty of ramp.
Whittling it down hurts, bro.

Gorzo

Quote from: The1337Magician on October 25, 2014, 10:58:22 AM
Whittling it down hurts, bro.

Ain't it the truth.

I guess I can cut awakening zone (with a heavy heart) since it is probably the least reliable ramp I have in here. I feel like I'm going to need both the lifelink and the trample from the hammer, though.

I'll put the bow in the maybe pile for now. You're right that it's not the strongest effect, but in this deck adding that one counter can be very useful. Giving attacking creatures Deathtouch is a bonus I'm happy to have, too.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Gorzo on October 25, 2014, 01:45:41 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on October 25, 2014, 10:58:22 AM
Whittling it down hurts, bro.

Ain't it the truth.

I guess I can cut awakening zone (with a heavy heart) since it is probably the least reliable ramp I have in here. I feel like I'm going to need both the lifelink and the trample from the hammer, though.

I'll put the bow in the maybe pile for now. You're right that it's not the strongest effect, but in this deck adding that one counter can be very useful. Giving attacking creatures Deathtouch is a bonus I'm happy to have, too.

I personally think {Bow of Nylea} is an auto keep. Death touch is great, and the +1/+1 counters fit theme.

The1337Magician

Yeah. Sorry. I always forget about that clause of deathtouch.

Gorzo

Lol... I just had a nice chat with a friend of mine. He's always been obsessed with the original ravnica block, so I asked him for some card advice regarding old simic, since I'm not very familiar with it.

He gave me some real gold, and it sent me deeper into the +1/+1 counter theme. So I made some cuts that I didn't want to make that didn't fit the theme now that I'm deeper into it... And I still have more cuts now than I needed before!  Arrrgh!

Gorzo

One stupid cut. I'm stuck at one stupid cut, and sample drawing isn't helping - every card is performing great!

A friend suggests cutting {Give // Take} or {Knacksaw Clique}, but I really don't want to cut either of those... Knacksaw is a flyer that gives Kraj a really fun untap ability, and give/take is a flexible power boost or card draw...

What do you guys think? This deck looks really fun, I need to finish this decklist so I can start looking for cards I need :P

Spikepit

Oh dear. I know we've had this discussion before, Gorzo, but I'm gonna go ahead and say {Island} any way.

But seriously, {Vigean Hydropon} is the only one that is vibing a cut to me here.

Sigh, I hate that last cut. It feels like only being able to take one friend with you on school vacation and having to tell the others, 'sorry you're still my friends too but I had to choose!'

Temur_Tendency

I personally dont believe {incremental growth} makes the cut, you have enough +1/+1 counters already

Gorzo

Quote from: Spikepit on November 04, 2014, 05:38:17 AM
Oh dear. I know we've had this discussion before, Gorzo, but I'm gonna go ahead and say {Island} any way.

But seriously, {Vigean Hydropon} is the only one that is vibing a cut to me here.

Sigh, I hate that last cut. It feels like only being able to take one friend with you on school vacation and having to tell the others, 'sorry you're still my friends too but I had to choose!'

Haha I know, the last cut is such a heartbreaker.

I do agree that the hydropon looks iffy, but my friend who lives and breathes old ravnica block swears to me it's 30 times better than it looks and will be a political lockdown with Kraj since I can graft onto other people's creatures if they dare cast one with an activated ability. So... I'm going to trust his superior experience with old simic to my own and give it a try. I can swap it out for {decree of savagery} if I end up not liking it, because cutting decree made me really sad.

I think I might actually try cutting that island. Actually I'll cut ancient ziggurat instead, since I can't use it for mana on activated abilities.

Spikepit

If it weren't the Vegan Hydrophone, I'd probs try my luck at a land too. Have at it. 

Ekann1

Quote from: Spikepit on November 04, 2014, 06:04:43 PM
If it weren't the Vegan Hydrophone, I'd probs try my luck at a land too. Have at it.
Lol Vegan Hyrdophone xD