Dress Codes

Started by Thetrufflehunter, October 16, 2014, 07:02:28 PM

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Kaworu, the Fifth Child

Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on October 16, 2014, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on October 16, 2014, 08:08:18 PM
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Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on October 16, 2014, 08:03:16 PM
Oh, no no no. The regal approach is fine in personal speeches. But if you email someone, it makes it look like you don't care as much as is you would contact them in person. So, you need to be courteous and more open.
Suggestions as how I would go about that? Approaching my principal and breaking out into a monologue seems like it would lead to a bad day, so I'm sticking with the email format.
My solution? Make an appointment with the dean of students during a study hall or after school. Really lets them know you care. And in your words, just change it around a little. Your words are almost condescending seeming. I know they're not but I don't think the person will. Make it more like you want to know what they think, instead of the "here's what should happen" approach.
If I might say, our school A) doesnt have a study hall, and B) doesn't have a dean of students. We have a director (principal), vice director (actually probably a better person to write to, as I know him much better), and the teaching staff of a whopping 10 plus PE, spanish, math, music, and handwork.
Then talk to the VP, if he's inclined towards you. Make sure you're friendly- after school would work best.

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Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on October 16, 2014, 11:25:18 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on October 16, 2014, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on October 16, 2014, 08:08:18 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on October 16, 2014, 08:05:04 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on October 16, 2014, 08:03:16 PM
Oh, no no no. The regal approach is fine in personal speeches. But if you email someone, it makes it look like you don't care as much as is you would contact them in person. So, you need to be courteous and more open.
Suggestions as how I would go about that? Approaching my principal and breaking out into a monologue seems like it would lead to a bad day, so I'm sticking with the email format.
My solution? Make an appointment with the dean of students during a study hall or after school. Really lets them know you care. And in your words, just change it around a little. Your words are almost condescending seeming. I know they're not but I don't think the person will. Make it more like you want to know what they think, instead of the "here's what should happen" approach.
If I might say, our school A) doesnt have a study hall, and B) doesn't have a dean of students. We have a director (principal), vice director (actually probably a better person to write to, as I know him much better), and the teaching staff of a whopping 10 plus PE, spanish, math, music, and handwork.
Then talk to the VP, if he's inclined towards you. Make sure you're friendly- after school would work best.

i agree, and id also present the VP with {{noblellama}}'s article because i thought it articulated the point very well. but also try to understand the faculties POV and why they have enacted this program. i understand you dont want to sound like a creep who just wants to see more skin, but it is definitely possible to walk the middle path. you can have a mature positive conversation about this while still being human and understanding people naturally have these kinds of feelings for other hormonal teenagers their age. id push the womens rights issue as i think thats the best argument. i do agree with this article that these kinds of dress codes can promote the kind of thinking that if a women dresses "provocatively" or "freely" they are "asking for it" meaning asking for sexual abuse.  i will quote the great chef Madison Cowan "A woman could walk down the street stark naked, and no one would have any right to lay a hand on her."

Mattao19

You want to do this:

Email him your typed note and at the start (or end depends on preference) ask if you may speak to them next day/week. That way they can prepare too it's common courtesy :)

Ekann1

Quote from: Mattao19 on October 17, 2014, 04:53:30 AM
You want to do this:

Email him your typed note and at the start (or end depends on preference) ask if you may speak to them next day/week. That way they can prepare too it's common courtesy :)
This seems like a good idea.

Thetrufflehunter

Thanks for all of your guys help!

I think I will organize a meeting with the vp, and send him the email that day.

Thetrufflehunter

There is a revision of dress code that will be announced soon. I'll hold off on this until I know what that is. Thanks again for the help!

Thetrufflehunter

Update: I heard my mom (in the school board) talking to the principal. They are making the change of "wear leggings as if they were tights" and possibly allowing "bell bottom leggings". I'm going to send my message to my mom, along with the link. We will see where she takes it.

Aladormax