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[InfinitiveDivinity]

Mill 8 for one sounds bad?

The buildup is more of a 1 mana suspend 5 mill for 8, which just sounds bad. Topdecking that late game will never win me the game, in fact, that sounds like a nightmare. Turn 1 I would rather fetch for a tapped shock or play a crab then this thing. And anywhere after that it just gets worse. Talk about a tempo killer.

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Mill 8 for one sounds bad?

The buildup is more of a 1 mana suspend 5 mill for 8, which just sounds bad. Topdecking that late game will never win me the game, in fact, that sounds like a nightmare. Turn 1 I would rather fetch for a tapped shock or play a crab then this thing. And anywhere after that it just gets worse. Talk about a tempo killer.

yea pretty sure altar is only playable in edh.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

Mill 8 for one sounds bad?

The buildup is more of a 1 mana suspend 5 mill for 8, which just sounds bad. Topdecking that late game will never win me the game, in fact, that sounds like a nightmare. Turn 1 I would rather fetch for a tapped shock or play a crab then this thing. And anywhere after that it just gets worse. Talk about a tempo killer.

topdecking a crab is also really bad lategame.

Sometimes. If I have {Ghost Quarter}s out though it can be a game winner.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

my only point with that is "top decking it late game is bad" is a bad argument.  top decking a mana dork late game is bad.  top decking your 7th land is bad.  If you don't like it, whatever, it's just that that argument is poor.

I also made an argument for why even early game it's not preferable. Not my cup of coffee.

[cltrn81]

Mmmm coffee ☕️

[Munchlax]

The other thing about Alter is that it's chewing up your turn one where you'd rather mill the opponent or see their hand or play a crab. It is also a dead draw at any other point in the game.

[Langku]

Yeah that's absolutely a bad card. That's why JOHNNY:{Patrol Signaler}, {Training Grounds}, {Paradise Mantle}, {Altar of the Brood}.

Sweet, Taysby! I'm gonna go show this to the "team Janky Johnny" and make a new combo deck.

[Mattao19]

Yeah that's absolutely a bad card. That's why JOHNNY:{Patrol Signaler}, {Training Grounds}, {Paradise Mantle}, {Altar of the Brood}.

Sweet, Taysby! I'm gonna go show this to the "team Janky Johnny" and make a new combo deck.

Screw that:

{Altar of the Bad}
{Midnight Guard}
{Preence of Gond}

[cltrn81]

Yeah that's absolutely a bad card. That's why JOHNNY:{Patrol Signaler}, {Training Grounds}, {Paradise Mantle}, {Altar of the Brood}.

Sweet, Taysby! I'm gonna go show this to the "team Janky Johnny" and make a new combo deck.

Isn't that just win more though?  If you have infinite tokens.  Haven't you already won?

[Ekann1]

Yeah that's absolutely a bad card. That's why JOHNNY:{Patrol Signaler}, {Training Grounds}, {Paradise Mantle}, {Altar of the Brood}.

Sweet, Taysby! I'm gonna go show this to the "team Janky Johnny" and make a new combo deck.

Isn't that just win more though?  If you have infinite tokens.  Haven't you already won?

That's what I was thinking.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

Tossed in a {Steam Vents}, for Coletrain 😁

[Mattao19]

my only point with that is "top decking it late game is bad" is a bad argument.  top decking a mana dork late game is bad.  top decking your 7th land is bad.  If you don't like it, whatever, it's just that that argument is poor.

I also made an argument for why even early game it's not preferable. Not my cup of coffee.

Whatever.  I just think mill 8 for one regardless of if it takes a while or not is good.  I'll be done now.

You ignore the fact that it takes up a space. Tbh mill has {Mesmeric Orb} which is infinitely better but even Orb sees little play

[cltrn81]

Tossed in a {Steam Vents}, for Coletrain 😁

👍

[Silent1236]

Well I was going to be done until someone responded.
Breaking takes up a spot and pretty much does the same thing for 1 more mana.

And can be Snapcastered. 16 > 8

[cltrn81]

{breaking} also has the sexond {entering} mode which is a real thing.  You fill their hard and mid-late game you steal their best fatty