Spectra Ward Judge ruling, vs me

[Destore117]

So my friend went to an M15 draft and ran Mono white Lifegain and he was saying if {Spectra Ward} was on a creature, he could still enchant it with otherauras. He even asked the head judge there who said this was ok.

I wanna say no because although it doesn't remove auras already on the creature, the creature may NOT be targeted, blocked, dealt damage by, or enchanted by colored things

Correct?
Or does this card have some kind of special ruling that allows additional colored auras?...

[blackychan1]

You are correct. Spectra ward does not remove previous enchantments. The words "protection from" always mean the same thing. It does not change. It can no longer be targeted by Auras.

[Destore117]

You are correct. Spectra ward does not remove previous enchantments. The words "protection from" always mean the same thing. It does not change. It can no longer be targeted by Auras.

Thank you, I tried explaining this, now I either failed at my explanation or he just doesn't understand how protection works.

[blackychan1]

It is also worth noting that he CAN still target it with colorless Auras, like {eldrazi conscription}.

[Ekann1]

Also, auras that are put directly on the battlefield somehow (can't think of a way right now but I'm sure someone will) don't target and can be put on the creature enchanted with spectra ward.

[rarehuntertay]

Also, auras that are put directly on the battlefield somehow (can't think of a way right now but I'm sure someone will) don't target and can be put on the creature enchanted with spectra ward.

{Zur the Enchanter}

[Ekann1]

Also, auras that are put directly on the battlefield somehow (can't think of a way right now but I'm sure someone will) don't target and can be put on the creature enchanted with spectra ward.

{Zur the Enchanter}

That works. There's something from the Alara block too right?

[Munchlax]

Also, auras that are put directly on the battlefield somehow (can't think of a way right now but I'm sure someone will) don't target and can be put on the creature enchanted with spectra ward.

{Zur the Enchanter}

That works. There's something from the Alara block too right?

{Soverigns of Lost Alara}

[Ekann1]

Also, auras that are put directly on the battlefield somehow (can't think of a way right now but I'm sure someone will) don't target and can be put on the creature enchanted with spectra ward.

{Zur the Enchanter}

That works. There's something from the Alara block too right?

{Soverigns of Lost Alara}

That one might be different actually, because of the wording "could enchant." Hmm.

[Pleeb]

I'm going to go with the none of the cheaty methods mentioned will work to add enchantments to the creature enchanted with spectra ward. Protection explicitly prevents the enchanting of a creature (the E in debt). The ward only modifies the rule for enchantments already attached to the creature.

702.16c: A permanent or player with protection can't be enchanted by Auras that have the stated quality. Such Auras attached to the permanent or player with protection will be put into their owners' graveyards as a state-based action. (See rule 704, "State-Based Actions.")

[Ekann1]

I'm going to go with the none of the cheaty methods mentioned will work to add enchantments to the creature enchanted with spectra ward. Protection explicitly prevents the enchanting of a creature (the E in debt). The ward only modifies the rule for enchantments already attached to the creature.

702.16c: A permanent or player with protection can't be enchanted by Auras that have the stated quality. Such Auras attached to the permanent or player with protection will be put into their owners' graveyards as a state-based action. (See rule 704, "State-Based Actions.")

Rules text:
"Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and has protection from all colors. This effect doesn't remove Auras."

It can't be targeted (the "Enchant creature" targets), but once it's there, Spectra Ward's text overrides the E of debt, allowing the aura to stay.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I'm going to go with the none of the cheaty methods mentioned will work to add enchantments to the creature enchanted with spectra ward. Protection explicitly prevents the enchanting of a creature (the E in debt). The ward only modifies the rule for enchantments already attached to the creature.

702.16c: A permanent or player with protection can't be enchanted by Auras that have the stated quality. Such Auras attached to the permanent or player with protection will be put into their owners' graveyards as a state-based action. (See rule 704, "State-Based Actions.")

Rules text:
"Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and has protection from all colors. This effect doesn't remove Auras."

It can't be targeted (the "Enchant creature" targets), but once it's there, Spectra Ward's text overrides the E of debt, allowing the aura to stay.

He was saying that he thinks things such as {Zur the Enchanter} don't get around {Spectra Ward}.

[Tthmax]

What about the fact that on the card it says: can't be damaged, targeted or blocked. There's nothing on it about 'enchanted' wicht is usualy in 'debt'.

[particle]

What about the fact that on the card it says: can't be damaged, targeted or blocked. There's nothing on it about 'enchanted' wicht is usualy in 'debt'.

this is because if it said "enchanted" the enchantments would fall off that are attached. to try to enchant a new card to it, you would need to target it, which is prevented.

[Tthmax]

Clear! Thanks