Monday, August 25th

Started by Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth, August 18, 2014, 06:15:25 PM

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Falcon182

Quote from: Rass on August 26, 2014, 12:18:17 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on August 25, 2014, 10:37:29 PM
Anyways I think it's crazy the people who think legacy is overpriced. A tier 1 modern deck can cost almost as much as a legacy deck. Staying current in standard for a year or two costs as much as a legacy deck. There are lots of competitive legacy decks that don't run the highest priced dual lands... But besides the duals, nearly every card that is good in legacy is good in modern!

If you want to get in to legacy, don't spend $100 on a sealed box of standard garbage, spend that same $100 on a wasteland. I really don't understand how people don't get this concept. The same people that complain about the cost of legacy are the people who buy 2 boxes of each set as it comes out and a set of each intro decks. If you don't see the problem here, legacy doesn't want you. Stick to standard.

You say that. But it's the people who buy the new stuff keep the game alive. If everyone just bought the cards like that this game would be dead ( either cards way overpriced or no one playing because no new blood) Every so often you get a card that breaks into legacy from a new expansion. There has to be some kind of happy medium.

If they are so worried they are gonna break the local lgs by reprinting that's a silly concept. I believe they don't want to reprint so there is always that want of cards.  If you had all the cards always available you would get bored. Back to my first thought. Wotc could send out a note to the lgs warring them about reprints. Then plan something that they could work out similar to the "hidden treasures".

I agree, if people stopped playing standard the game as we know it would end. Lots of people love standard and that's awesome, people should keep playing standard. I don't have a problem with people playing standard, I have a problem with all the complaining about legacy prices.

Rass

Yes but just saying stop complaint about prices does nothing. What kind of solutions.

(I guess I read a little on the text and didn't get the tone I thought you were calling the people who buy standard dumb)

Falcon182

Quote from: Rass on August 26, 2014, 12:33:00 PM
Yes but just saying stop complaint about prices does nothing. What kind of solutions.

(I guess I read a little on the text and didn't get the tone I thought you were calling the people who buy standard dumb)

No, not at all... I would play standard but I don't have the time and money to spend on it. I play legacy because I don't HAVE to buy new cards for it every few months.

blackychan1

Quote from: GlowackAttack on August 26, 2014, 02:58:11 PM
I just hope that when I die and go to heaven Jesus has a few EDH decks. :-/ it'd be a major bummer if he only played legacy
Jesus plays vintage.

Rass

Last I heard he plays Pokemon.

rarehuntertay

I thought he played Marvel VS

blackychan1

Quote from: rarehuntertay on August 26, 2014, 11:17:54 PM
I thought he played Marvel VS
How dare you insult Jesus' taste in games!

DirtyMustachio


MuggyWuggy

Jesus plays Ante w/ mana burn


Re: price of legacy


Any hobby will have expensive prices for original and hard to find items.

It's supply and demand, if magic wasn't a CCG, it wouldn't have this problem. This is a collectors game, not a game ready to go out of the box. If that was the case, magic would be sold in sets instead of packs, allowing all players to have the same card pool easily.

But if they did that, magic would become worthless IMO. There is no longer a need for LGS for buying products, I can go get it at target and save 15%. Prices of cards wouldn't really matter if you could buy the set for $60 or less.

I'm a collector also, so telling me after I did some work and spent some money that my collection is now available for $39.95 at target or you can preorder at GameStop to get an exclusive foil. No thanks. Play your kaojido or some other awful card game that's about to die from over printing

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Muggywuggy on August 27, 2014, 12:17:02 PMI'm a collector also, so telling me after I did some work and spent some money that my collection is now available for $39.95 at target or you can preorder at GameStop to get an exclusive foil. No thanks. Play your kaojido or some other awful card game that's about to die from over printing
This is why all Reserved List arguments crash and burn....No one (who actually cares about the future of the game) wants a "FTV: Dual Lands" for MSRP. I am talking about a Legacy Masters with $15-25 a pack MSRP. I understand dual lands can't cost $10, but they shouldn't cost $300 either...

Dudecore

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 27, 2014, 01:07:32 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on August 27, 2014, 12:17:02 PMI'm a collector also, so telling me after I did some work and spent some money that my collection is now available for $39.95 at target or you can preorder at GameStop to get an exclusive foil. No thanks. Play your kaojido or some other awful card game that's about to die from over printing
This is why all Reserved List arguments crash and burn....No one (who actually cares about the future of the game) wants a "FTV: Dual Lands" for MSRP. I am talking about a Legacy Masters with $15-25 a pack MSRP. I understand dual lands can't cost $10, but they shouldn't cost $300 either...

This is why I think the repeal the reserve list argument fails. The secondary market prices for the card's are not a valid reason to break a promise. Saying we're not concerned with the future of the game is loaded because I do care about the future of the game - Wizards ability to keep promises is all part of that. What certain people are comfortable spending on Legacy staples isn't super important, especially since they're less then $20 a piece online, or you can proxy for your friends.

rarehuntertay

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 27, 2014, 01:07:32 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on August 27, 2014, 12:17:02 PMI'm a collector also, so telling me after I did some work and spent some money that my collection is now available for $39.95 at target or you can preorder at GameStop to get an exclusive foil. No thanks. Play your kaojido or some other awful card game that's about to die from over printing
This is why all Reserved List arguments crash and burn....No one (who actually cares about the future of the game) wants a "FTV: Dual Lands" for MSRP. I am talking about a Legacy Masters with $15-25 a pack MSRP. I understand dual lands can't cost $10, but they shouldn't cost $300 either...
I remember when dual lands cost $10 😜
And I know the reserved list isn't going away... It's just wishful thinking on my end. However, I can get behind a Legacy Masters set with reprints of the non-reserved list, such as {force of will},{mana drain}, {sinkhole}, {chain lightning} etc...

MuggyWuggy

Everyone wants a Lamborghini and only wants to pay for a Kia. 

MuggyWuggy

These are cards that are over 20 years old, breaking a 20 year old promise??? They want people to buy standard, they know their limited sets will normally sell out.

rarehuntertay

Those cards I named are not on the reserved list, so therefore, are eligible for reprints