Ferguson

[Silent1236]

So, I haven't been keeping up on this. Last I heard:
Kid was involved in robbery
10 minutes later, cop stops him
Kid pushes cop into his car attempting to grab his gun
A round goes off, kid darts
Cop shoots kid

Am I out of the loop there?

Taysby:
You look like an ass when you correct someone's grammar. You look like an even bigger ass when you "correct" someone's grammar when it was right to begin with. Just stop.

[MuggyWuggy]

So, I haven't been keeping up on this. Last I heard:
Kid was involved in robbery
10 minutes later, cop stops him
Kid pushes cop into his car attempting to grab his gun
A round goes off, kid darts
Cop shoots kid

Am I out of the loop there?

Taysby:
You look like an ass when you correct someone's grammar. You look like an even bigger ass when you "correct" someone's grammar when it was right to begin with. Just stop.

Cop had no idea he had committed robbery
***Claims have been made that the officer pulled  brown towards him in his vehicle***

That's the whole gray area currently

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

We honestly don't know. There are two autopsies and a third is being done. Here is an article: http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/08/18/expert-autopsy-reveals-eyewitness-accounts-that-brown-was-shot-in-back-are-false/

[Silent1236]

Regardless of the robbery, there's a possibility that the kid assaulted a cop. I'd say the cop was in the right on that if that's what happened. If the cop indeed pulled him in, that's ballsy. It seems a bit ludicrous for a cop to just shoot an innocent kid in cold blood. That's throwing his career and probably the rest of his life on the line. That being said, I know that things like that do happen and police brutality is a very real thing. With the kid's recent activity, I'm more inclined to be on the cop's side. *speculation*He robbed a place, got stopped by a cop and panicked.  In that state of mind, his actions may have seemed appropriate.

Tl;dr
With the information presented right now, I'd be on the cop's side over the potential victim. It's a cop's word over a criminal's friend's word right now.

[MuggyWuggy]

One of the eye witnesses was a social worker, not just his friend Johnson who was supposedly hiding behind a car as the officer shot at Brown

[Silent1236]

One of the eye witnesses was a social worker, not just his friend Johnson who was supposedly hiding behind a car as the officer shot at Brown

How far away was the social worker?  The difference between "pulling" and "pushing" would be difficult to see in the middle of a struggle if you're more than a few feet away.

[Distriimuir]

Regardless of the robbery, there's a possibility that the kid assaulted a cop. I'd say the cop was in the right on that if that's what happened. If the cop indeed pulled him in, that's ballsy. It seems a bit ludicrous for a cop to just shoot an innocent kid in cold blood. That's throwing his career and probably the rest of his life on the line. That being said, I know that things like that do happen and police brutality is a very real thing. With the kid's recent activity, I'm more inclined to be on the cop's side. *speculation*He robbed a place, got stopped by a cop and panicked.  In that state of mind, his actions may have seemed appropriate.

Tl;dr
With the information presented right now, I'd be on the cop's side over the potential victim. It's a cop's word over a criminal's friend's word right now.

Is nobody getting the whole cops are trained to not kill unarmed civilians? Regardless of anything the cop did over reach his power and shot someone who had no weapon ( gun knife or otherwise). They are TRAINED to use non lethal force UNLESS a weapon is present, which every eye witness even the "cops'" admit he didnt have. So what was the justification of any shots? No one saw him reach for the cops gun, ( the cops friend three days later saying it doesn't count, it's obviously covering for the police).

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I don't know what happened that the kid was shot, only about two people do, I am angry about the way the police are handling the protests.

[Rass]

I don't know what happened that the kid was shot, only about two people do, I am angry about the way the police are handling the protests.

You should also be angry at how the other people took advantage of this protest.

[Silent1236]

Regardless of the robbery, there's a possibility that the kid assaulted a cop. I'd say the cop was in the right on that if that's what happened. If the cop indeed pulled him in, that's ballsy. It seems a bit ludicrous for a cop to just shoot an innocent kid in cold blood. That's throwing his career and probably the rest of his life on the line. That being said, I know that things like that do happen and police brutality is a very real thing. With the kid's recent activity, I'm more inclined to be on the cop's side. *speculation*He robbed a place, got stopped by a cop and panicked.  In that state of mind, his actions may have seemed appropriate.

Tl;dr
With the information presented right now, I'd be on the cop's side over the potential victim. It's a cop's word over a criminal's friend's word right now.

Is nobody getting the whole cops are trained to not kill unarmed civilians? Regardless of anything the cop did over reach his power and shot someone who had no weapon ( gun knife or otherwise). They are TRAINED to use non lethal force UNLESS a weapon is present, which every eye witness even the "cops'" admit he didnt have. So what was the justification of any shots? No one saw him reach for the cops gun, ( the cops friend three days later saying it doesn't count, it's obviously covering for the police).

The kid would've had the upper hand if the cop was pushed into the car. He would need to do what he needs to preserve his own life. He had access to a self defense weapon, so he used it. Just because they are trained to use non-lethal means to end a conflict doesn't mean that is the only way to end it. If he was assaulted, his life was being threatened.  He did what he felt was necessary to defend himself. On top of that, how was he supposed to know the kid was unarmed?  If a weapon is present, that means it would be out, which would mean the cop would've probably already been shot/stabbed.

[Distriimuir]

Very disappointed in people on here. No visible weapon I guess to a cop means I'm in danger if he charges me, even though a taser or mace work just as well without killing someone. I hope we are not from the same generation.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I don't know what happened that the kid was shot, only about two people do, I am angry about the way the police are handling the protests.

You should also be angry at how the other people took advantage of this protest.

This is true, and I am also angry that there are looters taking advantage of the situation, but maybe if the police weren't tear gassing children, they could stop them.

[Silent1236]

Very disappointed in people on here. No visible weapon I guess to a cop means I'm in danger if he charges me, even though a taser or mace work just as well without killing someone. I hope we are not from the same generation.

If your life is threatened, you do what you deem necessary to preserve your life. That goes for the population as a whole, not just police. Just very different opinions, I suppose.

Also, people can walk right through mace and sometimes a taser and keep on going. It's not always a stopping force.

[Rass]

I don't know what happened that the kid was shot, only about two people do, I am angry about the way the police are handling the protests.

You should also be angry at how the other people took advantage of this protest.

This is true, and I am also angry that there are looters taking advantage of the situation, but maybe if the police weren't tear gassing children, they could stop them.

Lol. Let's not bring the children into this. If so what time was the first tear gas used? Also if I'm protesting why would I bring children to something that can turn violent? What should they do if it's Turing from a protest into an unruly mob? When they are out numbered

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

Silent, you miss the point- officers of the law should never kill citizens in duty and this is still overstepping self defense. Officers are trained to give their lives in the line of work.