Ferguson

Started by jonrox3, August 16, 2014, 01:02:55 AM

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MuggyWuggy

Quote from: Taysby on August 19, 2014, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on August 19, 2014, 02:10:55 PM
I feel like if this wasn't a bullshit shooting, we would have all the police evidence already. Rather than them clearly state what happened, I feel they are now just strategizing to keep the uproar to a minimum

All of America is watching this case.  They don't want to be the idiot police that change their opinion every two days and give out opinions.

And what is the big deal that the info hasn't been released yet?  It's not hurting anything.

Pretty sure this means there story isn't straight from the beginning. Hence why it's taking longer to clear up.

MuggyWuggy

Quote from: Taysby on August 19, 2014, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on August 19, 2014, 01:48:26 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on August 19, 2014, 11:31:11 AM
Quote from: #millsux! on August 19, 2014, 11:25:07 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on August 19, 2014, 10:52:02 AM
Then you have experts like this guy who think Michael brown had reefer madness....

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dr-michael-baden-marijuana-michael-brown

Lets not pull wool over our eyes people..

He wasn't saying that he was crazy.  Just that he was high.  Different people react differently to drugs, so it's in the realm of possibility (I'm not for or against this view) that it contributed to his actions,

I personally say this "evidence" horse sheet and I hope they are not going to actually use this for evidence in the defense. If they base anything on this I am going to say they are grasping straws. Hopefully it's just a specialist saying this is a possibility.

He's a former medical examiner who appears to have been apart of the same era as reefer madness. This guy is retired and talking bull out of his mouth.

Toxicology reports MJ in his system??! Guess what: MJ stays active in your system up to 3 months if you smoke it regularly. Pretty sure he smoked it regularly considering the blunts he stole; which have nothing to do with this case at all, this about a cop killing an unarmed teen

So it wouldn't be that hard to believe that he was currently high at the time of the shooting, no?
If he was high, he wouldn't have been thinking clearly, thus making him more likely to attack the cop.

By constantly saying "unarmed teen" you make him sound like a 5'9" 140 lb 15 year old.  He is a huge older guy.  Just because he didn't have a weapon doesn't mean he isn't dangerous.

No by "unarmed teen" I go by the facts of that he was:
A) 18 therefore teenager
B) had no weapon therefore unarmed


You also have never smoked weed and are under so much shelter that you have no perspective of other ways of life, your view is skewed by your parents filtration. Hence your lack of sympathy for human life and real first world problems. Your problems revolve around getting grounded & having your magic cards taken away, other people are constantly talked down to, discouraged and segregated still on the premise of the color of their skin.

For what the civil rights movement accomplished nearly 50 years ago it seems many people have forgotten the importance of unity, and why we question our governing figures & law enforcement.


Distriimuir

As I've said in other posts where he debates with people, he's either willfully ignorant and just taking te other side to troll, or he's a 18 year old that thinks he knows how the world works like we all used to. Either way it's eventually a futile attempt to inform a lesser experienced mind.

MuggyWuggy

You should inform yourself with facts before posting an opinion is my point, you have no source other than what your family has told you to think. Lest, you misbehave and have your magic cards taken away.

MuggyWuggy

Quote from: Taysby on August 19, 2014, 03:04:01 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 19, 2014, 12:00:39 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on August 18, 2014, 10:47:30 PM
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/08/18/john_oliver_on_ferguson_missouri_and_police_militarization_video.html

More sources of info...

I just started like 5 minutes in, so i missed some stuff

What is the racial makeup of your force?
dafuq does that have to do with anything?  It seems like they are actively trying to turn it into a racial issue.

Most of the people that have problems with police are african american.
No duh sherlock, most of their community is african american

Previous people have done bad things
regardless of if it's true or not, that doesn't mean the officer in question does that

The militarization of police is a completely different argument than racial profiling.  Keep on the same topic.  (Why dafuq DO they need a tank though?)

Swat raids have gone up 14,000% since 1980
No duh, the first official swat team wasn't even accepted untill 1975ish.

79% of swat deployments are for drug investigations
That is mostly for safety.  If someone is trying to hide illegal activity from the cops (especially if they are high) they will probably do stupid stuff like try and shoot the police.  They need a professional team with the right equipment to handle it.

Bring it you .loving. animals bring it
Notice they didn't provide what happened before it?  He could have been talking to someone to make it a reasonable response.  You don't know, they just jump straight to conclusions.

The governor locked them in their homes.
They were violently protesting.  He needed to do that to maintain safety and security.

Incredibly patronizing
They couldn't contain their protests.  He had to do something.

Take away their toys until they can go a month without killing an unarmed black man.
I could convince any cop to lethally kill me without having any weapon on me.





So much bias in his story it's not even funny.

Please do, I would love to hear a story about a cop killing an unarmed white kid in Utah


MuggyWuggy

Quote from: Taysby on August 19, 2014, 03:04:57 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on August 19, 2014, 02:49:22 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 19, 2014, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on August 19, 2014, 02:10:55 PM
I feel like if this wasn't a bullshit shooting, we would have all the police evidence already. Rather than them clearly state what happened, I feel they are now just strategizing to keep the uproar to a minimum

All of America is watching this case.  They don't want to be the idiot police that change their opinion every two days and give out opinions.

And what is the big deal that the info hasn't been released yet?  It's not hurting anything.

Pretty sure this means there story isn't straight from the beginning. Hence why it's taking longer to clear up.

And... Your point is?  The officer said it one way, other people said it another, they don't have any solid proof, so they are waiting until it's all figured out.

Taysby is clearly using meatspin.com rhetoric

MuggyWuggy

Of course police are human, I've never said that every single police force member is a bad person.

Your word "attack" is open to many scenarios

If you have a gun, baton, taser, mace, a car you can sit in with a shotgun and bullet proof glass you have many options to disable an attacker, should you kill them immediately?

A police officer is trained in many ways to neutralize a perp without using deadly force


MuggyWuggy

Yes they did. Police just hushed it up and tried to make it justified

Still on going also

Read taysby
Oh wait you cant

Mattao19

And here I am thinking that we live in 2014 a time where racism should have no place! (Obviously there's still going to be a little racism a sad truth) BUT it's a damn shame that racism still exists! Like seriously can't we all just get along. I know this is so naive of me but still it's a sad truth :(

MuggyWuggy

We should totally be past racism and we are not
It is very sad

MarduArrow

Quote from: Taysby on August 19, 2014, 03:34:09 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on August 19, 2014, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 19, 2014, 03:28:53 PM
Something such as this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_discrimination
http://www.doi.gov/pmb/eeo/cases/reverse.cfm
Taysby, shut the fūck up, you entitled shït

Case with black person.  WTF ARE THE COPS DOING?  THEY'RE RACIST!!!  SCREW THEM!  DEMILITARIZE THE POLICE!  THE POLICE ARE CORRUPT! *violent protests*
Case with white person.  Let's just put the cops on probation and figure this out like real people.

:P

Oh yes, because the people protesting  in the video in this article being fired upon with rubber bullets, smoke grenades/ tear gas, and high powered sound cannons are obviously armed and violent


Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Taysby on August 19, 2014, 05:25:58 PM
To conan for swearing?
Yes, or at least it is to Conan.

MarduArrow

Quote from: Taysby on August 19, 2014, 05:11:08 PM
They were protesting violently.  They were looting buildings. They were letting them do their thing as long as it was peaceful.

They were standing with their hands in the air, this was a peaceful protest and they were fired upon