Ferguson

[MuggyWuggy]

Autopsy report

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=1


Guns are not tasers they are tools of death.

[MuggyWuggy]

A trained officer shouldn't have to shoot someone 6 times

[MuggyWuggy]

You shouldn't be in charge of holding a gun on duty if you're a coward when it comes time to use it

One trained shot to the kneecap is enough to disable most people

[MuggyWuggy]

There's still nothing that supports killing someone over Jay walking

[Distriimuir]

From the autopsy, it shows he was shot six times. Three of the shots were from the back and one from above. There either were multiple cops shooting him, or a bullet fairy felt like giving some out. Taysby they train cops to not use excessive force, which is what unloading a clip is. If an officer can't control himself under pressure he's in the wrong line of work.

Info is from the second autopsy that was finished and report put out early today, not the first biased one btw.

[5/9 Turtle]

There's still nothing that supports killing someone over Jay walking

This^
Jaywalking is as against the law as stealing is, nobody enforces it. I see people do it all the time. It's one of those situations where you enforce it to the fullest or not at all

[Distriimuir]

From the autopsy, it shows he was shot six times. Three of the shots were from the back and one from above. There either were multiple cops shooting him, or a bullet fairy felt like giving some out. Taysby they train cops to not use excessive force, which is what unloading a clip is. If an officer can't control himself under pressure he's in the wrong line of work.

Info is from the second autopsy that was finished and report put out early today, not the first biased one btw.

Mind giving me a link?  I'm lazy. 

If you want to pull that discussion, sounds reasonable.  It just comes down to the final decision of if he was coming toward the officer the whole time or not.  And the dude being in the wrong line of work is a completely different argument than racism.  I'd be a lot more likely to believe that he's in the wrong line of work.

Sorry on the go today so I'm using my touch can't get links till later, easily googled on reputable sites all over the net. Never said anything about racism, he shouldn't be a cop if he shoots an unarmed man, regardless of the big man possible charging him ( which hasn't been verified even by other officers there).

The officer that shot him( or possibly more) didnt know about him having stolen from a store, so the excessive force was unwarranted, and even if they did know about it shooting an unarmed civilian is a huge issue they should have been trained on. The cop or cops will be fired an may have their homes destroyed by protesters if the evidence is true, which as long as the police dept doesn't keep trying to cover it up will prove to be very real facts.
Sadly our police is becoming far to militarized in a society where they are attempting to disarm us. Issue is much deeper than this man being shot, but is a important part of showing the corruption of many depts in the us.


edit: so i got a chnce, here tays:http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2014/08/17/michael-brown-was-shot-times-ferguson-officer-preliminary-autopsy-shows/izi6zze4Z2QebrpaWtG2nI/story.html

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/18/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html

[MuggyWuggy]

There's still nothing that supports killing someone over Jay walking

He didn't shoot him from j walking.

He talked to him about it, saw the solen goods, he attacked the cop, the cop responded to the attack.

Where is your source? I've been providing sources, those who differ in opinion have said everything to assassinate the character of the deceased, replace the blame and point the finger else where.

I look at the issue: an unarmed teenager is now dead & it's been nearly a week and all the official details aren't out yet.

You talk from a perspective of being a cop taysby and you are only a teen who doesn't realize someone like yourself was killed over nothing.

Do you value human life so little that you believe because "the law" said it was ok it is justified?

Come back with some non faux news sources, come back with a police report and autopsy from their department.

[MuggyWuggy]

Here's a nice summary of what's going on there:

http://chicagoist.com/2014/08/18/the_latest_from_ferguson_national_g.php#.

Police are attacking the press and denying the first amendment. That's pretty bad.

[5/9 Turtle]

Police are attacking the press and denying the first amendment. That's pretty bad.

The govt in general has restricted our rights as in the case of Schenck v US and Korematsu v US. Our rights aren't absolute they ebb and flow, as is now with the PATRIOT act. There could be the possibility of there being a lawsuit against the police, that could go to the Supreme Court and it could further the ebb and flow of our rights. So they can take away first amendment rights due to these court cases.

[Distriimuir]

From the autopsy, it shows he was shot six times. Three of the shots were from the back and one from above. There either were multiple cops shooting him, or a bullet fairy felt like giving some out. Taysby they train cops to not use excessive force, which is what unloading a clip is. If an officer can't control himself under pressure he's in the wrong line of work.

Info is from the second autopsy that was finished and report put out early today, not the first biased one btw.

Mind giving me a link?  I'm lazy. 

If you want to pull that discussion, sounds reasonable.  It just comes down to the final decision of if he was coming toward the officer the whole time or not.  And the dude being in the wrong line of work is a completely different argument than racism.  I'd be a lot more likely to believe that he's in the wrong line of work.

Sorry on the go today so I'm using my touch can't get links till later, easily googled on reputable sites all over the net. Never said anything about racism, he shouldn't be a cop if he shoots an unarmed man, regardless of the big man possible charging him ( which hasn't been verified even by other officers there).

The officer that shot him( or possibly more) didnt know about him having stolen from a store, so the excessive force was unwarranted, and even if they did know about it shooting an unarmed civilian is a huge issue they should have been trained on. The cop or cops will be fired an may have their homes destroyed by protesters if the evidence is true, which as long as the police dept doesn't keep trying to cover it up will prove to be very real facts.
Sadly our police is becoming far to militarized in a society where they are attempting to disarm us. Issue is much deeper than this man being shot, but is a important part of showing the corruption of many depts in the us.


edit: so i got a chnce, here tays:http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2014/08/17/michael-brown-was-shot-times-ferguson-officer-preliminary-autopsy-shows/izi6zze4Z2QebrpaWtG2nI/story.html

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/18/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html

Didn't mean to say you were pulling the racist argument.  Most people are, hence why I said that.

If a huge guy is running toward someone looking like they are trying to kill him, it's self defense.

More investigation will need to be done because of the conflicting autopsy reports.

I don't see how you justify shooting a UNARMED teen six times is "self defense". Do you not understand that cops are trained and held to a higher standard of safety for civilian life than others? He should have tased, maced, batoned, anything other than just opening fire. That's not self defense, that's abuse of power.

[MuggyWuggy]

Why is it so far fetched that a cop would abuse their power?

[MuggyWuggy]

So if innocent until proven guilty:

Why did the cop choose to shoot an innocent person? Don't use the robbery as an excuse as the cop in question had no idea about the robbery

[MuggyWuggy]

Is it ok to leave a dead body on the street for five hours?

[NovusOrbis]

Is it ok to leave a dead body on the street for five hours?

Is it ok to destroy other people's properties, loot, burgle, and steal? No ones saying what the cop did was right, but when things go down the drain, so does rationale. If a bear is coming at you, you don't just shoot it once and say "ok, this bear's coming at me, but I shot it so its all good." No. You unload what you feel is right. You're acting out of self defense. You also mentioned that people are innocent until proven guilty. Ergo, the cop is innocent and shouldn't be condemned.