Shrapnel blast scenario

[Crossed]

I have an ornithopter. I cast ensoul artifact and select ornithopter to be enchanted. My opponent casts lightning strike as a response and targets ornithopter. I cast shrapel blast, select ornithopter to be sacrificed, and target my opponent for 5 damage. Can my opponent cast an additional lightning strike and target ornithopter.

[Crossed]

Thank you. That's exactly what I said. And I lost a game because of a similar scenario.

[LinkCelestrial]

As a note, if you tapped a creature with {Burning Anger} and targeted a creature, then your {Burning Anger} gets {Naturalized} your {Burning Anger} still lands. Stack goes,

{Burning Anger}
Then,

{Naturalize}
{Burning Anger}

{Naturalize} resolves but {Burning Anger} is still on the stack, so it still goes off. Same goes for {Gray Merchant of Asphodel}. Even if he gets killed his ability still goes off, just minus two devotion. (Cause he dead so he doesn't count.) I hope this makes sense. The stack can be confusing.

[Crossed]

Make sense. And also had a scenario similar to that. Activated an ability, and the permanent was destroyed. Guy tried to argue that the ability was remove from the stack. He won the argument, but I still won the game

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

What if you have a creature artifact out on battlefield. You cast blast and in response I {Hero's Downfall} your creature. Does the creature die before blast resolves?

Nope. The stack looks like this:

{Shrapnel Blast}
{Hero's Downfall}

The artifact creature is sacrificed when you cast Shrapnel Blast, because it is part of the cost, and it is gone when Downfall resolves, so Downfall is countered upon resolution.

[particle]

What if you have a creature artifact out on battlefield. You cast blast and in response I {Hero's Downfall} your creature. Does the creature die before blast resolves?

Nope. The stack looks like this:

{Shrapnel Blast}
{Hero's Downfall}

The artifact creature is sacrificed when you cast Shrapnel Blast, because it is part of the cost, and it is gone when Downfall resolves, so Downfall is countered upon resolution.

in fact isnt there no target for downfall in the first place since {shrapnel blast} sac before opp can respond. so downfall cant even be cast since you dont have a legal target.

[Crossed]

Found the rulings. 602 and 117.8 an 117.9 explain costs. You take the card from where it is (usually in the hand), pay the mana cost, pay the additional cost, decide if you want to pay splices/strive/kicker/etc, then the card is ready to attempt to resolve, and then a card/ability can be cast in response.

[Crossed]

Ok. One more {thoughtseize}. If I cast {thoughtseize} and you counter it, do I still pay the 2 life?  I'm guessing yes since the blast talk.

You're selecting a card. I've seen people play the selected card in response. Same with brain maggot.

But I'm not sure if you're suggesting a counter spell or if you mean that a player played the card in response.

If it's countered, then no life is lost since it's the effect of the card and not the cost.
If your opponent played the card you selected in response, then yes, since the thoughtseize wasn't countered. It still has to resolve on the stack.

[Remillo]

Ok. One more {thoughtseize}. If I cast {thoughtseize} and you counter it, do I still pay the 2 life?  I'm guessing yes since the blast talk.

You're selecting a card. I've seen people play the selected card in response. Same with brain maggot.

Once a Thoughtseize (or Maggot, or Duress, etc) has started to resolve, players don't have a chance respond anymore.  Revealing is done on Resolution, so once the hand is in the open and a card is selected, it's too late to try and cast that card.

As for countering Thoughtseize - Since the loading life is part of the effect and not the cost, countering it also means that they don't lose two life.

[Nymuera]

Ok. One more {thoughtseize}. If I cast {thoughtseize} and you counter it, do I still pay the 2 life?  I'm guessing yes since the blast talk.

You're selecting a card. I've seen people play the selected card in response. Same with brain maggot.

But I'm not sure if you're suggesting a counter spell or if you mean that a player played the card in response.

If it's countered, then no life is lost since it's the effect of the card and not the cost.
If your opponent played the card you selected in response, then yes, since the thoughtseize wasn't countered. It still has to resolve on the stack.

They can't play the selected card in response. Once the ability resolves it goes through to completion. You can't respond to the middle of an ability or spell.

[Crossed]

I'll be sure to point that out at the next game I see trying that. Makes sense that you can't respond to an card while it's resolving. Didn't even think about that. Thanks for the clarification