Trait Doctering on Favored Hoplite

Started by Mattao19, July 18, 2014, 08:46:11 PM

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Mattao19

I was watching SCGWOR and a guy ran {Trait Doctering} and {Favored Hoplite} how is this legal?

griffin131

{Trait Doctoring} doesn't require the target permanent to have a color word on it. It just requires a target permanent.

Mattao19

Quote from: griffin131 on July 18, 2014, 08:47:42 PM
{Trait Doctoring} doesn't require the target permanent to have a color word on it. It just requires a target permanent.

Really? Hm thanks :D

LinkCelestrial

This is very confusing. Do you mean he Ciphered {Trait Doctoring} onto it? Or did he somehow change it? Ciphering, legal. Changing, not legal, there's nothing to change.

Mattao19

He targeted his Hoplite and then ciphers it to the FH

LinkCelestrial

As far as I'm aware that'd just fizzle the first casting of the spell. I don't think that'd stop the cipher but I don't see how it'd affect the creature at all.

particle

from the gatherer:
4/15/2013   You can target any permanent with Trait Doctoring, including one with no color words or basic land types on it.

the permanent doesnt need a color word. hes just getting a free heroic trigger for two mana.

griffin131

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 18, 2014, 08:56:30 PM
As far as I'm aware that'd just fizzle the first casting of the spell. I don't think that'd stop the cipher but I don't see how it'd affect the creature at all.
The spell only requires a target permanent. The fact that the spell does nothing doesn't matter - all targets are satisfied, spell resolves.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: griffin131 on July 18, 2014, 10:39:28 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 18, 2014, 08:56:30 PM
As far as I'm aware that'd just fizzle the first casting of the spell. I don't think that'd stop the cipher but I don't see how it'd affect the creature at all.
The spell only requires a target permanent. The fact that the spell does nothing doesn't matter - all targets are satisfied, spell resolves.

Okay. Makes sense.