Do ppl not get it?

Started by Mattao19, July 05, 2014, 09:35:20 AM

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DrainCleaner

I'm really excited to try a sliver toolbox with chord. Only need 1 hivelord for the maindeck lol

Mattao19

Quote from: Taysby on July 07, 2014, 12:39:05 PM
I'm not sold on chord in standard right now.  I know its really good in modern, but it seems like it has to be a toolbox deck for it to work good and that doesn't seem possible in standard right now.

Trust me it works ;)

MuggyWuggy


blackychan1

Quote from: Mattao19 on July 07, 2014, 12:49:02 PM
Trust me it works ;)
I trust you! Remember when you t me that {eidolon of the great revel} was super good? Now it's played in nearly ALL red decks!

Remillo

Quote from: blackychan1 on July 07, 2014, 01:55:02 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 07, 2014, 12:49:02 PM
Trust me it works ;)
I trust you! Remember when you t me that {eidolon of the great revel} was super good? Now it's played in nearly ALL red decks!

Most specifically, it gives Green-based Midrange decks something to do on their opponent's end step with all their Coursers and Sylvan Caryatids.  Tap four lands and three dudes, get a Polukranos.  Untap, Swing.  Seems good.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quick point of debate: is Chord good in limited? I say (if values be damned) its playable, but possibly not first-pickable, depending what's in the pack. Chord is nice, but when it costs 9 to pull out a bomb, and you need to have the bomb in the deck, it gets a little shakey.

Hunteroffire9

Quote from: Taysby on July 07, 2014, 12:39:05 PM
I'm not sold on chord in standard right now.  I know its really good in modern, but it seems like it has to be a toolbox deck for it to work good and that doesn't seem possible in standard right now.
I'm with you, way to slow for competitive standard. Standard does not have the mana ramp to make effective, and it can easily be countered or ran over by a fast aggro deck unless your interested in calling in a {a mana dork}. Now saying this, it will be a great card to hold onto because price will go up in time. This is what I think because of the current standard, but this could easily change in khans or even the next set after.

Hunteroffire9

Quote from: bravado883 on July 07, 2014, 04:13:48 PM
I guess I would think if a green based deck had four untapped lands and a {Sylvan Caryatid}, I'm wondering why they didn't just play a 5-drop?  Wouldn't most players be able to tell that Chord was coming?  I guess instant speed does help against control, but the G/x Monsters matchup is already pretty good against control.  I don't know, you guys could definitely be right on this one.  Like I said, I'm just not super convinced Chord is great in standard until I start seeing it be great in standard.  I think it needs the right kind of deck to be good; it's an awesome card, but I'm not sure it's so awesome it should just be jammed in every green deck possible.

You can all laugh at me when I'm wrong!
I think your right, if it does get good it's not fitting into the shell of a deck that already exists and would more likely be in a new Archetype like someone mentioned with silvers.

Mattao19

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on July 10, 2014, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: bravado883 on July 07, 2014, 04:13:48 PM
I guess I would think if a green based deck had four untapped lands and a {Sylvan Caryatid}, I'm wondering why they didn't just play a 5-drop?  Wouldn't most players be able to tell that Chord was coming?  I guess instant speed does help against control, but the G/x Monsters matchup is already pretty good against control.  I don't know, you guys could definitely be right on this one.  Like I said, I'm just not super convinced Chord is great in standard until I start seeing it be great in standard.  I think it needs the right kind of deck to be good; it's an awesome card, but I'm not sure it's so awesome it should just be jammed in every green deck possible.

You can all laugh at me when I'm wrong!
I think your right, if it does get good it's not fitting into the shell of a deck that already exists and would more likely be in a new Archetype like someone mentioned with silvers.

This a well curved Sliver hand can do nasty things with Chord in the right build its great plus late game you have a tutor at instant speed so they sphinx for 5 and tap out and in response your chord

Hunteroffire9

Quote from: Mattao19 on July 10, 2014, 01:29:35 PM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on July 10, 2014, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: bravado883 on July 07, 2014, 04:13:48 PM
I guess I would think if a green based deck had four untapped lands and a {Sylvan Caryatid}, I'm wondering why they didn't just play a 5-drop?  Wouldn't most players be able to tell that Chord was coming?  I guess instant speed does help against control, but the G/x Monsters matchup is already pretty good against control.  I don't know, you guys could definitely be right on this one.  Like I said, I'm just not super convinced Chord is great in standard until I start seeing it be great in standard.  I think it needs the right kind of deck to be good; it's an awesome card, but I'm not sure it's so awesome it should just be jammed in every green deck possible.

You can all laugh at me when I'm wrong!
I think your right, if it does get good it's not fitting into the shell of a deck that already exists and would more likely be in a new Archetype like someone mentioned with silvers.

This a well curved Sliver hand can do nasty things with Chord in the right build its great plus late game you have a tutor at instant speed so they sphinx for 5 and tap out and in response your chord
But people only tap out for sphinx eot of your turn,  that would leave you completely open for a board wipe,etc. also most of the time you want to play your slivers before you attack to boost the attacking ones.. Not eot.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on July 10, 2014, 06:49:18 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 10, 2014, 01:29:35 PM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on July 10, 2014, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: bravado883 on July 07, 2014, 04:13:48 PM
I guess I would think if a green based deck had four untapped lands and a {Sylvan Caryatid}, I'm wondering why they didn't just play a 5-drop?  Wouldn't most players be able to tell that Chord was coming?  I guess instant speed does help against control, but the G/x Monsters matchup is already pretty good against control.  I don't know, you guys could definitely be right on this one.  Like I said, I'm just not super convinced Chord is great in standard until I start seeing it be great in standard.  I think it needs the right kind of deck to be good; it's an awesome card, but I'm not sure it's so awesome it should just be jammed in every green deck possible.

You can all laugh at me when I'm wrong!
I think your right, if it does get good it's not fitting into the shell of a deck that already exists and would more likely be in a new Archetype like someone mentioned with silvers.

This a well curved Sliver hand can do nasty things with Chord in the right build its great plus late game you have a tutor at instant speed so they sphinx for 5 and tap out and in response your chord
But people only tap out for sphinx eot of your turn,  that would leave you completely open for a board wipe,etc. also most of the time you want to play your slivers before you attack to boost the attacking ones.. Not eot.
Oh no!!! Chording a {Sliver Hivelord} onto the field could leave me open to a board wipe.......oh wait.....