Turns and synergies

Started by TreeSmoker, June 10, 2014, 09:50:03 AM

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NovusOrbis

It would happen simultaneously would it not? Hoplite gets +x where x is the number of attacking creatures, they would all be attack at the same time.

particle

Quote from: NovusOrbis on June 26, 2014, 09:48:53 PM
It would happen simultaneously would it not? Hoplite gets +x where x is the number of attacking creatures, they would all be attack at the same time.

no. nothing in magic is simultaneous. each creature triggers individually to put a dude out attacking and the hoplite also triggers. since you control all the triggers, you choose what order they are put on the stack

NovusOrbis

Quote from: particle on June 26, 2014, 11:04:39 PM
Quote from: NovusOrbis on June 26, 2014, 09:48:53 PM
It would happen simultaneously would it not? Hoplite gets +x where x is the number of attacking creatures, they would all be attack at the same time.

no. nothing in magic is simultaneous. each creature triggers individually to put a dude out attacking and the hoplite also triggers. since you control all the triggers, you choose what order they are put on the stack
Ok, I see now, the attack is initiated, attackers declared, tokens come in, then hoplites trigger

particle

Quote from: NovusOrbis on June 27, 2014, 12:39:38 AM
Quote from: particle on June 26, 2014, 11:04:39 PM
Quote from: NovusOrbis on June 26, 2014, 09:48:53 PM
It would happen simultaneously would it not? Hoplite gets +x where x is the number of attacking creatures, they would all be attack at the same time.

no. nothing in magic is simultaneous. each creature triggers individually to put a dude out attacking and the hoplite also triggers. since you control all the triggers, you choose what order they are put on the stack
Ok, I see now, the attack is initiated, attackers declared, tokens come in, then hoplites trigger

not exactly. you have multiple creatures. you have already resolved {launch the fleet} targeting all your creatures. now you have a bunch of creatures that have abilities that trigger "WHEN this creature attacks". The {akroan hoplite} now has two abilities that trigger "when this creature attacks". after you declare your attacking creatures, you have a chance to put all of these abilities on the stack. there is no rhyme or reason to which ability resolves first, except the order you give it. Note that if you didnt control all these abilities it would be a different story. At the end of the day, to accomplish this properly, declare attackers, then say something like "ill stack the triggers so hoplite's individual ability resolves last." and youll be good to go.

Arbitratur

M15{Necromancers stockpile}+{gravecrawler}

Discard gravecrawler, get 2/2 zombie and get gravecrawler back!

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Quote from: Arbitratur on June 30, 2014, 09:55:35 AM
M15{Necromancers stockpile}+{gravecrawler}

Discard gravecrawler, get 2/2 zombie and get gravecrawler back!

well you still need a black to cast {gravecrawler} right?

TreeSmoker

#21
Well i thought of a pretty good synergistic couple

{courser of kruphix} + {domri rade}

They make pretty babies
Lol

I wonder what a caveman-centaur baby would look like o.O

particle

Quote from: TreeSmoker on July 08, 2014, 12:19:27 PM
Well i thought of a pretty good synergistic couple

{courser of kruphix} + {domri rade}

They make pretty babies
Lol

I wonder what a caveman-centaur baby would look like o.O
{chandra pyromaster}'s 0 is also pretty sweet with them.

Chargingswadger

{courser of Kruphix} +{fast bond}

Mattao19

Quote from: Chargingswadger on July 08, 2014, 11:07:49 PM
{courser of Kruphix} +{fast bond}

Too bad you can never use it :(

TreeSmoker

Planned on edh with it :p
Maybe modern.

Destore117

That's nasty ^_^
{Down//Dirty} + {Demigod of Revenge}
Friend uses this in Rakdos and wrecks people. Discards 2 demigods
Hits for 15 next turn.

Subiskier

I'm making a deck with playsets of {legion loyalist} {frontline medic} {day of judgement} and {legion's initiative}. My idea is to attack with batallion, make everyone indestructible then day of judgement. Or flicker everyone with the initiative ability then day of judgement. Wanted some extra ideas or creatures that would synergize well with this. Thanks!

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Subiskier on July 23, 2014, 03:54:07 PM
I'm making a deck with playsets of {legion loyalist} {frontline medic} {day of judgement} and {legion's initiative}. My idea is to attack with batallion, make everyone indestructible then day of judgement. Or flicker everyone with the initiative ability then day of judgement. Wanted some extra ideas or creatures that would synergize well with this. Thanks!

{Legion's Initiative}. Your creatures leave then come back just in time to smash your opponent in the face. It's nasty.

Subiskier

Yeah I have 4 of those. Glad were on the same page!
I need some good 2-drops. {ash zealot} or something along those lines. Competitive on it's own but benefits from batallion as well