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[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Everyone healthy?

[Piotr]

I'm against government forcing me to buy a product I don't want nor need.

To be fair, you don't have to buy anything. No one is forcing you to stay within the country. Also, you have the option to simply pay the fine.

Also: see the above post, I only posted the article here, because you would need a Time Subscription to access it through a link. I am sorry, next time I will put such things in a Google Doc and link that to here.

You are breaking the copyrights laws of your own country, moron.

EDIT: I don't want TheTimes' lawyers sending me cease and desist letters just because you are too dumb to understand how reality works.

EDIT2: Everything you do affects others, everything has a cost associated with it. I had to spend 10 minutes of my time cleaning your mess. As my retribution I called you names, as your restitution pay 10 minutes* worth of my time to my PayPal account to erase your guilt.

EDIT3: You have Removed all your posts which originally contained copyrighted material, from pages 1 and 2 of this thread.

* all my 2014 invoices so far have GBP50 per hour of my time on them.

[Piotr]

The article is just a little long...

Do not do it or I'll ban you.

Well...that was quick. Geezuz dude, you need to be less trigger happy. Take a break from the forums or something

I've had enough of negativity from you. I've created and I'm maintaining this forum for friends, not enemies. You have no right to be here other than the right I'm granting you.

Antagonise me one more time and I will remove your right to be here, permanently.

cross me again and I'll ban you, ConanEdo.

[Piotr]

And since when has healthcare become a need?  Up until 19whenever it was, there was no such thing as health insurance.  People survived without it.  And forcing me to pay for someone who chose to smoke and then receive healthcare for it is stupid.

As for the post office, I'll do some research to find links.

It is necessary because health insurance allows people to receive healthcare which in turn allows Americans to survive longer and happier lives. Also, we would be paying for these people to receive health insurance anyways (through Medicare and the taxpayers pay for anyone who receives emergency healthcare services and can't pay for them), but this system allows the entire American public to act as a union of sorts, and use collective bargaining against the healthcare industry. If you had read the article, you would understand this concept. And to you "19whatever it was" remark I present this:

You graph can be explained much easier by the progress of technology. If not for obamacare and other socialist ideas, the graph would look better than it looks now, because what obamacare and socialism does is slowing the progress of technology. This is a fact of life.

Show me obamacare on this graph, then show me penicillin, ultrasound scanners, and vaccinations. 200 years ago favourite grand daughter of Queen Victoria died of disease which is now eradicated by antibiotics. All the riches of British Empire and all the power of its ruler could not help. Technology is what saves people, not robbing rich of their wealth.

Show me Red Cross and Gates charities on this graph.

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Piotr take deep breaths.  You were indeed wrong on this account seeing as nowhere in the iMtG law does it state, "you cannot post an article that is very long."

[cltrn81]

Piotr take deep breaths.  You were indeed wrong on this account seeing as nowhere in the iMtG law does it state, "you cannot post an article that is very long."

The iMTG law states no stealing.  Plagiarism is theft.

The graph is not plagiarism because it is properly cited.  There was some, now removed, material pasted in here from an article without proper citation.  That is what Piotr is upset about.

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

Wasn't it said "an article from time magazine"?

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Wasn't it said "an article from time magazine"?

Remember those works cited pages that you had to put at the end of your papers in high school.  I think that is what he meant.  You have to put it in that style.

[cltrn81]

Wasn't it said "an article from time magazine"?

Like I said....improper citation. There is plenty of info on how to do it properly.  Just making reference that all of the above content is from an article is still technically plagiarism


http://writingcenter.waldenu.edu/613.htm

[Piotr]

US copyright law allows you to copy excerpts from an article to comment and criticise. This is called fair use in law speak. Copy pasting an article in its entirety is a clear breach of copyright laws, and allows the times to execute legal actions under DMCA, which could cost me more time lost.

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Piotr take deep breaths.  You were indeed wrong on this account seeing as nowhere in the iMtG law does it state, "you cannot post an article that is very long."

The iMTG law states no stealing.  Plagiarism is theft.

The graph is not plagiarism because it is properly cited.  There was some, now removed, material pasted in here from an article without proper citation.  That is what Piotr is upset about.

Valid point.  Kind of wish he said what he was angry about before, would've helped.

But anyway, all argus has to do is use easybib and then this whole tiny dispute can be over.

[Piotr]

Plagiarism is theft.

I think plagiarism is closer to lie than to theft, but it's not what happened.

[Piotr]

Piotr take deep breaths.  You were indeed wrong on this account seeing as nowhere in the iMtG law does it state, "you cannot post an article that is very long."

I'm quite glad you resigned, your understanding of iMtG law is lacking. The law says: logic is the ultimate law, do not do to others what they do not want to be done to themselves. Do I want people breaching copyrights of The Times on my forum? No. Why? Logically, because it costs me time and money when people do this, as it is me receiving DMCA letters.

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

All I'm saying is that you should tell people which law you are enacting.  After that fiasco months ago, I lost the ability to trust your judgement.  Tell people which law you are upset about, it will be fixed, and people will be happy.

[cltrn81]

Plagiarism is theft.

I think plagiarism is closer to lie than to theft, but it's not what happened.

What did happen if not plagiarism?
And plagiarism is defined as theft of another's intellectual property.

http://library.albany.edu/usered/plagiarism/