Well

[Guymon71]

Obamacare

[MuggyWuggy]

Pay money or pay money unless on welfare, then keep on collecting

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

Help people or help people, unless being helped, then keep on living

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

Not really...

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

*Affordable Healthcare Act

**Patient Protection and Affordable Healthcare Act or "An act entitled The Patient Protection and Affordable Healthcare Act"

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Forcibly takes hard earned money from people who worked for it.

I'm not opposed to helping people, I'm just opposed to forced helping and government waste and problems.

Actually, Obamacare is going to save people money by turning the American public into one large consumer, turning the healthcare system around by forcing the healthcare firms to be price takers (as they should be in a competitive capitalist system). This is simple economics, there are times where the invisible hand of the market isn't able to achieve efficiency and during those times, the government needs to step in to manipulate the market so that we have a more efficient outcome, especially when considering externalities which the free market isn't able to take into consideration. Yes there is a deadweight loss, but the outcome is the socially optimal and it is well worth the deadweight loss. TL;DR: everyone who is crying about this creating waste or ruining the capitalist system is completely wrong and should pick up an economics textbook. It's sad when the socialist has to correct you guys on your own system....

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

*Affordable Healthcare Act

**Patient Protection and Affordable Healthcare Act or "An act entitled The Patient Protection and Affordable Healthcare Act"

...It was still more accurate than ObamaCare.

Very true

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Forcibly takes hard earned money from people who worked for it.

I'm not opposed to helping people, I'm just opposed to forced helping and government waste and problems.

Actually, Obamacare is going to save people money by turning the American public into one large consumer, turning the healthcare system around by forcing the healthcare firms to be price takers (as they should be in a competitive capitalist system). This is simple economics, there are times where the invisible hand of the market isn't able to achieve efficiency and during those times, the government needs to step in to manipulate the market so that we have a more efficient outcome, especially when considering externalities which the free market isn't able to take into consideration. Yes there is a deadweight loss, but the outcome is the socially optimal and it is well worth the deadweight loss. TL;DR: everyone who is crying about this creating waste or ruining the capitalist system is completely wrong and should pick up an economics textbook. It's sad when the socialist has to correct you guys on your own system....

And the government never screws up and does things it never inted to happen...

Keep using vague excuses....I am sure that between the thousands of people who have taken part in the drafting, and implementation of the law, the grand majority of the kinks have been worked out. But yeah, keep telling yourself that the government is evil and that you are perfect...

[FustyDavorite]

The article is just a little long...

I read about a third of it. Very intriguing, and even more didactic. I'll probably finish it when I'm less tired.

[Rass]

The article is just a little long...

Could have posted a link but people probably wouldn't have clicked it

[cltrn81]

You expect me to read that?

For example, the post office.  There's lots of people "working the links out" yet the post office always relies on taxes to sustain it.  The government screws up on things.  Piotr, your views?

This is blantently false.  The post office is 100% funded from postage revenue.  Let me repeat 100% from their own revenue.....not $1....not $.01.......not anything from state, federal, or any other form of tax money.

The conservative maniacs hate the success of this blue collar entity and created legislation that has been crippling it for years.  In a nut shell the legislation put forth in 2006....thanks Bush.....requires the post office to pre-fund health benefits for the next 75 years.  So what that means is the post office is being required to pay health benefits now for future employees that are not even born yet.......

No other public or private entity has ever been required to do such a crazy thing.  This is government attacking government to give all services to private firms......hands down.

[Piotr]

The article is just a little long...

Do not do it or I'll ban you.

[Piotr]

I'm against government forcing me to buy a product I don't want nor need.

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

Do what?

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

The article is just a little long...

Could have posted a link but people probably wouldn't have clicked it

No, you would have to have a subscription to Time in order to read the article, otherwise I would have put the link