Khans of Tarkir (Speculations and Spoilers)

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Dudecore

Quote from: GlowackAttack on August 30, 2014, 11:06:56 PM
Anybody noticed how the color order is now different. It no longer follows WUBRG. Look at {Kaalia, of the vast} for reference and the new Crackling Doom. It is switching up the order of colors and that honestly is what is making the cards seem so foreign to me. BUG is actually order B, U, G. in this set  not G U B like with {Damia, Sage of Stone}

I think the Wedges go in reverse order? Something like that.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Dudecore on August 30, 2014, 11:08:34 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on August 30, 2014, 11:06:56 PM
Anybody noticed how the color order is now different. It no longer follows WUBRG. Look at {Kaalia, of the vast} for reference and the new Crackling Doom. It is switching up the order of colors and that honestly is what is making the cards seem so foreign to me. BUG is actually order B, U, G. in this set  not G U B like with {Damia, Sage of Stone}

I think the Wedges go in reverse order? Something like that.
Yeah, Mark said they would talk about it when we get closer to the release.

Dudecore

This definitely already seems cooler and more powerful then Theros. Also, I like the new Mechanics teach new players good things. Like playing creatures 2nd main, using your graveyard as a resource (the return of Delve might also push Graveyard Hate into Legacy via Standard) and that Morph rules - and should be evergreen.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Dudecore on August 30, 2014, 11:26:30 PM
This definitely already seems cooler and more powerful then Theros. Also, I like the new Mechanics teach new players good things. Like playing creatures 2nd main, using your graveyard as a resource (the return of Delve might also push Graveyard Hate into Legacy via Standard) and that Morph rules - and should be evergreen.
Meh, morph isn't that cool and too complex to be evergreen. It's going to be a nightmare explaining newer players that morphing is a special ability.

Dudecore

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 30, 2014, 11:30:19 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on August 30, 2014, 11:26:30 PM
This definitely already seems cooler and more powerful then Theros. Also, I like the new Mechanics teach new players good things. Like playing creatures 2nd main, using your graveyard as a resource (the return of Delve might also push Graveyard Hate into Legacy via Standard) and that Morph rules - and should be evergreen.
Meh, morph isn't that cool and too complex to be evergreen. It's going to be a nightmare explaining newer players that morphing is a special ability.

Morph is hella fun. It adds a lot of complexity, yes, but it creates a lot of different board states that I think are fun. Creature combat is generally dull, but with morph you don't know what is turned face down, it could be an answer waiting to be deployed. Who do you decide to kill? Who do you decide to block? It makes the boardstates at least interesting and sort of punishes netdecks, because if you know what's coming then it isn't all that effective. A solid mixture of Morph creatures can really screw with an opponents head. If they do it right, which we've only seen 1 morph creature, it could lead to a very interesting standard environment.

Dudecore

Narset, Enlightened Master, as well as having a shrunken text to fit the template, combos with {Mystical Tutor}/{Enlightened Tutor}. Respond to her Trigger with {Mystical Tutor}/{Enlightened Tutor}, put a {Enter the Infinite}, {Omniscience} or {Obliterate} on top then win? If you feel like going deep, you can {Scroll Rack} anything awesome on top. Seems powerful.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Dudecore on August 30, 2014, 11:58:53 PM
Narset, Enlightened Master, as well as having a shrunken text to fit the template, combos with {Mystic Tutor}/{Enlightened Tutor}. Respond to her Trigger with {Mystic Tutor}, put a {Enter the Infinite} or {Obliterate} then win?
Yeah, Narset is pretty beast. It's too bad she isn't in standard with {Aurelia, the Warleader}, we have to settle for {Medomai, the Ageless}.

The1337Magician

I believe that the order is the "base color" followed by its enemy and then its ally:

Abzan: {W}{B}{G}
Jeskai: {U}{R}{W}
Sultai: {B}{G}{U}
Mardu: {R}{W}{B}
Temur: {G}{U}{R}

Dudecore

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 31, 2014, 12:00:46 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on August 30, 2014, 11:58:53 PM
Narset, Enlightened Master, as well as having a shrunken text to fit the template, combos with {Mystic Tutor}/{Enlightened Tutor}. Respond to her Trigger with {Mystic Tutor}, put a {Enter the Infinite} or {Obliterate} then win?
Yeah, Narset is pretty beast. It's too bad she isn't in standard with {Aurelia, the Warleader}, we have to settle for {Medomai, the Ageless}.

It's whenever she attacks too, which is like super strong. If you want to live the dream she can hit {Garruk, Apex Predator} and whatever other Standard nonsense. I like her in EDH, and might not be completely terrible in Standard. Hexproof anything is really strong. Johnny is going to love this.

Dudecore



Dudecore

Sooo. I don't play much Standard, but is he worse/better then {Stormbreath Dragon}?

Munchlax


Dudecore

His ultimate seems like it would be good for Sultai, no? It's kind of confusing. Stock your graveyard with things to Delve.

Munchlax

Quote from: Dudecore on August 31, 2014, 12:24:38 AM
His ultimate seems like it would be good for Sultai, no? It's kind of confusing. Stock your graveyard with things to Delve.
Seems like a Reanimator thing.