Khans of Tarkir (Speculations and Spoilers)

[Dudecore]

So now that fetchlands are confirmed (praise The Lord) I have just realized something... The targets for them kind suck. We don't have shocks anymore, so we are just getting a glorified {evolving wild} which allows untapped... I'm not dissing them, but does anybody believe that we may be getting some lands similar to {sapseed forest} or something? Ones that are technically a mountain/swamp/etc, but give abilities.

Fetchlands made sense in Zendikar because of the double Landfall trigger. They were designed for that set to complete the cycle.

Fetchlands in Khans just seem to be a money grab, but they are also the mana fixing for allied colors. Enemy colors got pain lands in the core set. It hurts them once every time they go to use them. Fetchlands hurt 1 time, and you fix the color you need. They're sort of glorified {Evolving Wilds} like you said.

Standard players will jam them anyway, or sell them to Modern, Legacy and EDH players to get stuff they need.

[MarduArrow]

That Ugin thing goes infinite with {Prototype Portal}

You would still need to find a way to get rid of the token each turn though

You make another one, its legendary.

That wouldn't work, it would get rid of one token but the other would make you skip your extra turn

[InfinitiveDivinity]

This set is going to be super awesome, but just as an aside--I'm really not liking some of the new wordings WotC has been using to make things "easier to understand."  The new Sultai dude says "Whenever one or more creatures are put into your graveyard from your library, put a 2/2 black zombie creature token onto the battlefield tapped."  What is this "or more" nonsense?  This confusingly makes it sound like if multiple creatures were put in at the same time the card would only trigger once, even though I'm 99% sure it still triggers on each creature. Why couldn't it have just said "Whenever a creature is put into your graveyard from your library..."  It seems like they're trying to be too clear, which is leading to confusing wording, like on {Chain Veil}.  Do you guys like these changes?

If it said  "Whenever a creature", it would be so broken. The wording is correct and means what you believed it did not.

[cltrn81]

+  {Relentless Assault}

Even + {lightning bolt} is a very efficient 9 damage.  I like this card

[cltrn81]

Completely wild speculation here but I would
Love to see a {vindicate} reprint and it seems logical in the theme of this set.

[Mattao19]

Completely wild speculation here but I would
Love to see a {vindicate} reprint and it seems logical in the theme of this set.

Agreed but MaRo said it's too powerful for standard so I doubt it

[Dudecore]

We're getting greedy

{Vindicate} probably is too good for Standard. It doesn't help that {Thoughtseize} is in Standard already.

[MuggyWuggy]

Howl for the horde....
So good. So damn good!

{R} just got some love!

[Destore117]

Wonder if we'll get a {time vault} reprint (cuz time travel right?) with that "skip extra turns card"

[MuggyWuggy]

Unfortunately, reserved list

Not even legal in legacy.

[rarehuntertay]

Wonder if we'll get a {time vault} reprint (cuz time travel right?) with that "skip extra turns card"

No. Reserved list

[Hunteroffire9]

We're getting greedy

{Vindicate} probably is too good for Standard. It doesn't help that {Thoughtseize} is in Standard already.

A non land version on vindicate might be ok

[Destore117]

Oh lol didn't know there was a reserved list. Hmm...well wasn't medomai in rtr block? So he'd be leaving standard right? So, what kinda "extra turn" stuff would there be? I doubt they'd print that card just for it to counter itself if multiple players have one

Nvm medomai is Theros just saw that.

[Dudecore]

We're getting greedy

{Vindicate} probably is too good for Standard. It doesn't help that {Thoughtseize} is in Standard already.

A non land version on vindicate might be ok

{Mortify}?

Problem is that White and Black don't do what {Vindicate} does anymore. Green is non-land permanent destruction I believe

[MuggyWuggy]

Other than scg: where can one preorder?