Ban List Discussion (speculation)

[DeathlyFoiend]

Deathly you run Affinity would you run Tarmo?

I haven't tried it out yet, but it seems strong enough to use it. Yeah, I probably would.

Really? To me it makes the deck inconsistent

It really doesn't. It just has some weird synergy with the deck. It grows fast because Affinity picks up hate like no other, and it makes a ground beater. With 12 sources, we reliably cast it, too.

[cltrn81]

The sac outlet of {arcbound Ravager} would pump goyf too.  I can see why he could be good in affinity.

[rarehuntertay]

The sac outlet of {arcbound Ravager} would pump goyf too.  I can see why he could be good in affinity.

How? Goyf isn't an artifact creature

[Mattao19]

The sac outlet of {arcbound Ravager} would pump goyf too.  I can see why he could be good in affinity.

How? Goyf isn't an artifact creature

He means like swing with my 3/4 goyf then before damage ill sac an artifact with Arcbound and now my goyf is a 4/5

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Also, think about what you board in against affinity: {Shatterstorm}, {Kataki, War's Rage}, etc. All the sudden a 4/5 goyf comes down to finish out the game.

[Mattao19]

Also, think about what you board in against affinity: {Shatterstorm}, {Kataki, War's Rage}, etc. All the sudden a 4/5 goyf comes down to finish out the game.

Good point never thought of it like that maybe Goofy has a spot in affinity

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

and thus, needs to be banned for diversity. 

Sarcasm? I don't think it needs to be banned, but I wouldn't mind if it did.

[cltrn81]

The sac outlet of {arcbound Ravager} would pump goyf too.  I can see why he could be good in affinity.

How? Goyf isn't an artifact creature

Sac a {darksteel citadel} and you get a land and artifact to count towards goyf.  Sac a {ornithopter} and get a creature and artifact toward goyf.

[MuggyWuggy]

So
Treasure cruise
Or ascendancy?

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

So
Treasure cruise
Or ascendancy?

I heard Aaron Forescythe is planning on banning both in Modern and TC in Legacy.

[Mattao19]

I'd rather them ban {Glittering Wish}

Like how they banned {Seething Song}

[MacheteMable]

I'd rather them ban {Glittering Wish}

Like how they banned {Seething Song}

that doesn't change very much though. The issue is the speed of the deck because of the card itself.

[Mattao19]

Take out wish and the consistency is way off. Now you have to MB your win con which sounds funny but it means that if if gets Thoughtseized you're screwed bc you don't want to play more than 1 or 2

[Rass]

I don't play that competive. But I would say give it a month or three. Then decide.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

So when this format was a wee laddy, multiple cards were banned to encourage diversity ({Wild Nacatl}, {Bitterblossom}, {Jace, the Wallet Rapist}, and {Stoned Mystic} to name a few). However, now that format has grown, these cards are beginning to seem a bit innocuous, such as how the Kitty and Fairy unbans really didn't do anything to the meta. So here is my thought: will WotC continue unbanning cards that were stowed away in the early days? Could {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} get unbanned in Modern (honestly, no one would successfully play him so long as {Treasure Cruise} and the 55% aggro meta is still around)? Could WoTC have been hedging against this eventual move with the creation of {Dreadbore} and {Hero's Downfall}? What else may come off the banlist? {Stoneforge Mystic}? {Ancestral Vision}?