Ban List Discussion (speculation)

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Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Mattao19 on September 09, 2014, 10:45:13 PM
Diversity? Just bc twin plays it doesn't mean anything. DRS was banned bc Burn played it lol BURN lol but Tarmo is not hurting modern at all sure (s)he wins games but it's not like if your deck doesn't run him you're effed
Twin isn't the only thing that plays it, it has appeared in Jund, Junk, GB Rock, Affinity, Splinter Twin......I'm not saying I think it SHOULD be banned, I'm saying I would understand IF he were.

Mattao19

Well to be fair BGx is his deck that's like saying pod should be banned bc it has Melira, Angel, and Kiki Pod.

Secondly Twin plays it sure but I don't believe it has a home in affinity sure it's in a few of it's decks but I doubt it'll be a thing

Mattao19

#62
Conan although I agree but it did offer cool new spins on older decks :P

Mattao19

Quote from: ConanEdo on September 10, 2014, 11:43:36 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 10, 2014, 10:52:13 AM
Conan although I agree but it did offer cool new spins on older decks :P
I just like to think Japanese players felt obligated to have wacky decks, then some burn players decided they wanted to win a GP and welshed.

Lol true :P

MacheteMable

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 09, 2014, 11:00:26 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 09, 2014, 10:45:13 PM
Diversity? Just bc twin plays it doesn't mean anything. DRS was banned bc Burn played it lol BURN lol but Tarmo is not hurting modern at all sure (s)he wins games but it's not like if your deck doesn't run him you're effed
Twin isn't the only thing that plays it, it has appeared in Jund, Junk, GB Rock, Affinity, Splinter Twin......I'm not saying I think it SHOULD be banned, I'm saying I would understand IF he were.
exactly my point. High five! ✋

DeathlyFoiend

GP Kobe was a cool GP because of the decks that it had. But The affinity list wasn't affinity. Tarmogoyf is just a good card. Twin used it because of the Zoo escape. But it isn't stopping anything. Deathrite stopped so many decks from being decks and even weakened others. It made Jund too strong. Tarmogoyf is just finding more homes as the format becomes painfully answer/disruption heavy.

MacheteMable

We haven't said anything about tsrmogoyf being like deathrite or oppressive or anything. So we can stop comparing them already. The argument was for diversity. Exact same as green suns zenith

Mattao19

Tarmo appearing in Twin does not make it as undiverse (not a word but I made it up lol) as you'd think it took a somewhat struggling deck and made it into a much stronger one which adds to Modern. Tarmo will almost never see Affinity play again so other than BGx and Tarmo twin he's not in much else.

cltrn81

Quote from: Mattao19 on September 11, 2014, 11:36:16 AM
Tarmo appearing in Twin does not make it as undiverse (not a word but I made it up lol) as you'd think it took a somewhat struggling deck and made it into a much stronger one which adds to Modern. Tarmo will almost never see Affinity play again so other than BGx and Tarmo twin he's not in much else.
He is not always a staple in deck because there is green.  There are a lot of zoo decks that don't run him.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: cltrn81 on September 11, 2014, 01:41:02 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 11, 2014, 11:36:16 AM
Tarmo appearing in Twin does not make it as undiverse (not a word but I made it up lol) as you'd think it took a somewhat struggling deck and made it into a much stronger one which adds to Modern. Tarmo will almost never see Affinity play again so other than BGx and Tarmo twin he's not in much else.
He is not always a staple in deck because there is green.  There are a lot of zoo decks that don't run him.
Only because of the cost (monetary).

cltrn81

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 11, 2014, 04:47:59 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on September 11, 2014, 01:41:02 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 11, 2014, 11:36:16 AM
Tarmo appearing in Twin does not make it as undiverse (not a word but I made it up lol) as you'd think it took a somewhat struggling deck and made it into a much stronger one which adds to Modern. Tarmo will almost never see Affinity play again so other than BGx and Tarmo twin he's not in much else.
He is not always a staple in deck because there is green.  There are a lot of zoo decks that don't run him.
Only because of the cost (monetary).
Not true.

I watched a deck tech video where the guy explained it more about goyf not fitting the strategy due to all of the one drops that are more efficient early game.

DeathlyFoiend

Quote from: cltrn81 on September 11, 2014, 05:33:01 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 11, 2014, 04:47:59 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on September 11, 2014, 01:41:02 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 11, 2014, 11:36:16 AM
Tarmo appearing in Twin does not make it as undiverse (not a word but I made it up lol) as you'd think it took a somewhat struggling deck and made it into a much stronger one which adds to Modern. Tarmo will almost never see Affinity play again so other than BGx and Tarmo twin he's not in much else.
He is not always a staple in deck because there is green.  There are a lot of zoo decks that don't run him.
Only because of the cost (monetary).
Not true.

I watched a deck tech video where the guy explained it more about goyf not fitting the strategy due to all of the one drops that are more efficient early game.
That is a fast zoo, which doesn't run Goyf because they don't fill the graveyard quickly to make goyf big effiently. Of course it wouldn't be used.

Mattao19

Deathly you run Affinity would you run Tarmo?


DeathlyFoiend

Quote from: Mattao19 on September 11, 2014, 09:23:32 PM
Deathly you run Affinity would you run Tarmo?
I haven't tried it out yet, but it seems strong enough to use it. Yeah, I probably would.

Mattao19

Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on September 12, 2014, 01:29:26 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 11, 2014, 09:23:32 PM
Deathly you run Affinity would you run Tarmo?
I haven't tried it out yet, but it seems strong enough to use it. Yeah, I probably would.

Really? To me it makes the deck inconsistent