Ban List Discussion (speculation)

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Watch, deathrite shaman be unbanned this time.  Lol.

Yes, WotC just likes screwing with Jund. "Oh yeah, that was a joke....here, have back {Bloodbraid Elf} and {DRS}. Dominate the Meta!"

[Walkhard]

I'd like them to ban all duel lands ever! -_-

[MisterJH]

Idt green suns would be as much as chord currently is, i think they should flop the 2.

[rarehuntertay]

I'm not sure. Chord can grab any creature. Green Sun only grabs green creatures. But GSZ may make pod decks more consistent. What decks really use Chord?

[MisterJH]

Idk but i think its more realistic to cast chord for 3 than GSZ(at least quickly) for example
Id rather chord

[DeathlyFoiend]

So....nothing got banned or unbanned as I predicted.

[Prplprince]

Right now the meta seems to be riding pretty smooth I guess so no bans I think but maybe  {Bloodbraid Elf} because it really seems jund has skipped the back seat and is sitting in the trunk

[DeathlyFoiend]

I can't agree with that now as I would in the past. BBE isn't as strong as it used to me with card Deathrite Shaman and it would only be too goo against control, but it would give Wizards a much needed ability to print tools that control should need to fight it.

While it is good, it isn't that hard to deal with as it was two years ago. And now, Jund isn't even a prominent deck. It is just BGx with Lightning Bolt and Chandra, as this would open up the format to the deck.

Pod and Combo decks don't have an issue with Jund even with BBE because of the ability to strengthen a game and devalue most of what BBE would have to offer.

[LordJanova]

So should I pick a few up in anticipation of a possible unbanning in the future?

[DeathlyFoiend]

I can't agree with that now as I would in the past. BBE isn't as strong as it used to me with card Deathrite Shaman and it would only be too goo against control, but it would give Wizards a much needed ability to print tools that control should need to fight it.

While it is good, it isn't that hard to deal with as it was two years ago. And now, Jund isn't even a prominent deck. It is just BGx with Lightning Bolt and Chandra, as this would open up the format to the deck.

Pod and Combo decks don't have an issue with Jund even with BBE because of the ability to strengthen a game and devalue most of what BBE would have to offer.

My fear is that it would do what Jund always does and basically make a lot of strategies non-viable. Obviously, without DRS it can't kill UWR and it never killed Pod. My concern is the rest of the metagame. Start with any pre RTR Jund list then and you have a recipe for an over-powered, safe, linear deck that can kill certain strategies as it has done in the past.

But you have to take a loo at the Metagame then and now, this is more diverse and has more answers to a lot of what Jund offers even after BBE. it would be a very drastic shift, but not demeaning to the format when decks adapt. Many Tier 2 and 1.5 decks are hard for Jund to deal with even with card advantage, and the ability of a 2 for one isn't going to be ground breaking when all of Junds answers are now instants.

It would also give Geralf's Messenger a reason to be played again since DRS is also gone. The only real deck besides UWR that would hard any trouble is going to be Zoo, which isn't anything right now anyways and would cause Wizards to give it more pressure and answers against such decks anyways.

It wouldn't be healthy for the format when it first gets unbanned, but it is going to be better once Zoo and Control have more tools to work with that also apply pressure to the deck. BBE should come off of the banned list, but not until there are more tools that give decks what BBE gives Jund.

[lotrwk]

Why?

[imthelolrus]

That debate is over.

Banlist is always open for debate, although the format appears healthy

[Mattao19]

what should be banned? I still think that Pod is powerful but not OP (sure its the best card in Modern, but there's enough hate for it) so IMO i don't think we will see a ban anytime soon but maybe an unban?

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

what should be banned? I still think that Pod is powerful but not OP (sure its the best card in Modern, but there's enough hate for it) so IMO i don't think we will see a ban anytime soon but maybe an unban?

Maybe they should give eggs a chance. 😢

[cltrn81]

what should be banned? I still think that Pod is powerful but not OP (sure its the best card in Modern, but there's enough hate for it) so IMO i don't think we will see a ban anytime soon but maybe an unban?

An unban would be interesting to shake things up but I think they will not make any changes until Khans filters into the scene and they get a feel how the new block will impact the overall meta.