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Started by Garblefarb, April 20, 2014, 04:59:56 PM

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MisterJH

Stand by your side i support that, but dont propagandize for marijuana same as they do against it passing off your biased info as fact and their biased info as bull. I just find that irresponsible when were trying to help expand Taysby's knowledge on the subject.

Garblefarb

Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 05:31:28 PM
Stand by your side i support that, but dont propagandize for marijuana same as they do against it passing off your biased info as fact and their biased info as bull. I just find that irresponsible when were trying to help expand Taysby's knowledge on the subject.
Yeah I get that. I never said taysby was stupid or anything idk how that came off but there is no evidence that it will ruin your life, that all depends on the individual. When I talk about the pros and cons my knowledge comes from actual research done by International scientists that have proved it to be atleast a little bit beneficial. I know it could be biase but as far as I'm concerned throughout human history cannabis has been used by countless civilizations throughout thousands of years with no proof of anything physically harmful

MisterJH

I know and im not trying to be chastising lol idk it just seemed odd to say taysbys information was off and that there was no issues whatsoever with marijuana when other research disagrees is all. Im simply trying to advocate a full understand of both sides is all

Garblefarb

Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 05:45:58 PM
I know and im not trying to be chastising lol idk it just seemed odd to say taysbys information was off and that there was no issues whatsoever with marijuana when other research disagrees is all. Im simply trying to advocate a full understand of both sides is all
That makes sense I usually take the neutral ground with this but I got carried away XD taysby if you read this I still love you <3

MisterJH

We all do <3 hahah

Spencer Addington

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 05:57:07 PM
...that's creepy...  Jk

What studies show that dugs have no bad side effects.  Show me one.  It might be biased, but for me, I go off of research and I have yet to see a study showing that drugs have no bad side effects.

I get that certain dugs can have therapeutic effects, but there's always a better option.  My dad is a pharmacist who studies this kind of stuff.  99.99% of the time! you can fix a problem with something different than currently illicit drugs.  Sure there is the occasional exception, but the masses don't need them to solve their problems.
But everything is bad for you...

Garblefarb

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 05:57:07 PM
...that's creepy...  Jk

What studies show that dugs have no bad side effects.  Show me one.  It might be biased, but for me, I go off of research and I have yet to see a study showing that drugs have no bad side effects.

I get that certain dugs can have therapeutic effects, but there's always a better option.  My dad is a pharmacist who studies this kind of stuff.  99.99% of the time! you can fix a problem with something different than currently illicit drugs.  Sure there is the occasional exception, but the masses don't need them to solve their problems.
Well I don't have a link at the ready for you sorry :P but pharmaceuticals are some of the worst things you could take to affect your body. "You're depressed? Ok here's a medication for that. Don't worry about the liver failure, seizures, heart attacks, brain anurisms. Trust us."
I understand how people need these drugs for their lives and it's fine but it is so false that prescription drugs will make everything better. They'll fix one problem but give you 5 more. I know I can't change your mind but do some research for yourself and try to see the other side of the issue

MisterJH

Theres tons of studies showing marijuana has no side effects besides amotivation and short term memory issues related to being under the influence, both of which clear up once off the drug. Not invested enough to look em up.

Also plenty that say it affects brain chemistry permanently.

Research is a bad thing to base your judgments off of TayTay(isnt that cute lmfaooooo) as so much of it is biased and funded by people wanting a specific result from the research, and thus make sure the study turns out that way. In fact if you base your opinions purely on studies well youll be sorely misinformed about everything in the world. In particular the food industry, studies about all that .poo. are funded by food companies/investors/ someone whos got money riding on the masses believing unhealthy food is actually healthy.


Heres an example: many cannabis studies have been funded by the lumber industry(at least back when it first was illegalized) because they had a vested interest in cannabis NOT being around. They had massive amounts of money, and surprise surprise cannabis is illegal. I also believe there have been studies funded by cigarette producers on the negative effects of cannabis though i heard that word of mouth so i cant be sure, but i believe it. PLEASE dont believe everything you read.. The only reliable information in the world anymore is what you experience firsthand and anecdotes, everyone else is trying to lie to you to get money, get your vote, whatever it is. Im not exaggerating you are being lied to daily by all these sources, all these studies... They arent to be believe just because theyre 'official.' I promise you living your life more in the know is very beneficial, itll keep you healthier mentally and physically in the long run.
I actually take the words 'a study shows' as a huge red flag to not believe anything following until further notice, its probably a lie!

Garblefarb

Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 06:08:00 PM
Theres tons of studies showing marijuana has no side effects besides amotivation and short term memory issues related to being under the influence, both of which clear up once off the drug. Not invested enough to look em up.

Also plenty that say it affects brain chemistry permanently.

Research is a bad thing to base your judgments off of TayTay(isnt that cute lmfaooooo) as so much of it is biased and funded by people wanting a specific result from the research, and thus make sure the study turns out that way. In fact if you base your opinions purely on studies well youll be sorely misinformed about everything in the world. In particular the food industry, studies about all that .poo. are funded by food companies/investors/ someone whos got money riding on the masses believing unhealthy food is actually healthy.


Heres an example: many cannabis studies have been funded by the lumber industry(at least back when it first was illegalized) because they had a vested interest in cannabis NOT being around. They had massive amounts of money, and surprise surprise cannabis is illegal. I also believe there have been studies funded by cigarette producers on the negative effects of cannabis though i heard that word of mouth so i cant be sure, but i believe it. PLEASE dont believe everything you read.. The only reliable information in the world anymore is what you experience firsthand and anecdotes, everyone else is trying to lie to you to get money, get your vote, whatever it is. Im not exaggerating you are being lied to daily by all these sources, all these studies... They arent to be believe just because theyre 'official.' I promise you living your life more in the know is very beneficial, itll keep you healthier mentally and physically in the long run.
I actually take the words 'a study shows' as a huge red flag to not believe anything following until further notice, its probably a lie!
You have a really solid point even though it also has to do with my argument XD

MisterJH

Oh i totaly forgot about the prescription drug lies god forbid... And dont those go hand in hand with the food industry... OH WAIT THATS TH BIGGEST LIE AND CONSPIRACY IN THE FREAKIN WORLD! Our .poo. nutrition=conditions=prescription drugs that a lot of people wouldnt need if the food industry wasnt so effed. Look it up they support each other so hard. If nutrition was better the drug industry would crash and burn. It goes really deep i cant even begin to get into it on here.

Garblefarb

Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
Oh i totaly forgot about the prescription drug lies god forbid... And dont those go hand in hand with the food industry... OH WAIT THATS TH BIGGEST LIE AND CONSPIRACY IN THE FREAKIN WORLD! Our .poo. nutrition=conditions=prescription drugs that a lot of people wouldnt need if the food industry wasnt so effed. Look it up they support each other so hard. If nutrition was better the drug industry would crash and burn. It goes really deep i cant even begin to get into it on here.
Yeah I'm just gonna stick to the pot subject XD I'm not even gonna go there

MisterJH

Haha ill let you look into that if youd like taysby itll open your eyes on 'studies' in general.

Garblefarb

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 08:13:58 PM
Prescriptions.  Most of the time, saying that just covers their bases to avoid gettin sued.  Most of the time, there a few to no bade side effects.

Studies.  I don't believe everything I read, but when all of the studies say something without being disproven, I believe those.  If you give me studies by reputable sources like mayo or something, then I'll believe it.

Marajuana has more carcinogens then cigarettes.  Maby the drug in it is harmless I'm not going to argue that right now, but you are more likely to get cancer from marajuana than cigaretts.
ok I know we all have our own opinion and I respect that. But I would like to point out how .loving. wrong you are about the carcinogens. Cannabanoids, Which is something that goes along with thc in pot, HAVE shown results in effectively shutting down, and suppressing active cancer cells. These Cannabanoids have no mind altering properties and are recognized to have healing capabilities. The only direct link with marijuana and cancer is the fact that it has the ability to treat and cure the affects from cancer. You have your opinion and that's fine, just like I have mine. But I really think you should do your own research and make your own decisions about these things and not listen to what your peers tell you. If you did maybe you would see any legit research shows that there is no link to cancer and marijuana. Fin

Garblefarb

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 08:44:12 PM
Ummm.. Mayo clinic released that information so I'm pretty sure they are right...
So your small health clinic, or science? Which to believe.... Hmm

MisterJH

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 08:13:58 PM
Prescriptions.  Most of the time, saying that just covers their bases to avoid gettin sued.  Most of the time, there a few to no bade side effects.

Studies.  I don't believe everything I read, but when all of the studies say something without being disproven, I believe those.  If you give me studies by reputable sources like mayo or something, then I'll believe it.

Marajuana has more carcinogens then cigarettes.  Maby the drug in it is harmless I'm not going to argue that right now, but you are more likely to get cancer from marajuana than cigaretts.
Ok who funds mayo clinic? People who dont want legal cannabis im sure man. Ok all i can say is i encourage you to be openminded but youre being brainwashed and i wont be able to change that.

Also, studies have show there are lower rates of cancer in cannabis smokers. Notice cancer is almost NEVER brought up as a warning against weed. In fact studies have shown cannabis to slow the growth of cancer. If you go by studies you have to actually read studies or else youre just believing the first thing you see and that makes for no argument. Research it, and keep it mind its all biased and you have to make these decisions for yourself. No, mayo clinic does not = reputable source on all things marijuana. Its too controlled for good studies to be done