Torpor orb

[MisterJH]

Would {torpor orb} stifle {phyrexian dreadnaut}?

[Keyeto]

It will stop his ETB trigger from going off, letting you (or your opponent!) summon him with no drawbacks.

[MisterJH]

Ok good!
Also, not quite related but since this is resolved, will {death's shadow} enter as a 13/13 or wnter with -x/-x(assuming i resurrected the shadow from GY and {flayer of the hatebound} was on battlefield

[Deathstorm]

It enters with a -x and flayers ability will be stopped by torpor orb

[Remillo]

Ok good!
Also, not quite related but since this is resolved, will {death's shadow} enter as a 13/13 or wnter with -x/-x(assuming i resurrected the shadow from GY and {flayer of the hatebound} was on battlefield

Death's Shadow has a static ability that constantly modified its power and toughness while it's on the field.  Torpor Orb has no interaction.  With Flayer's ability, Power is checked on Resolution.  If DS enters with 10 power, but you pay 2 life for something before the ability resolves and it's power becomes 12 when the ability checks it, it'll deal 12 damage.  However, that ability IS stopped by Torpor orb.

[MisterJH]

Im not asking about torpor orb though so that doesnt help my question. Torpor orb can be assumed not to be on the battlefield for the sake of the question because otherwise it would be an extraordinarily dumb question. So will flayer deal the adjusted damage? Or 13?

[Remillo]

Ok good!
Also, not quite related but since this is resolved, will {death's shadow} enter as a 13/13 or wnter with -x/-x(assuming i resurrected the shadow from GY and {flayer of the hatebound} was on battlefield

Death's Shadow has a static ability that constantly modified its power and toughness while it's on the battlefield.  With Flayer's ability, Power is checked on Resolution.  If DS enters with 10 power, but you pay 2 life for something before the ability resolves and it's power becomes 12 when the ability checks it, it'll deal 12 damage.

Point is, Power is checked on resolution.

[MisterJH]

Ok thats what i wanted to know, my secod question had nothing to do with torpor orb. Thank you. That kinda is a pain in my rump.

[Remillo]

Ok thats what i wanted to know, my secod question had nothing to do with torpor orb. Thank you. That kinda is a pain in my rump.

However, if you want to do something cute with Death's Shadow and Dreadnought, Death's Shadow's ability doesn't function when it's in the graveyard.  If you use {Varolz, the Scar-Striped} to Scavenge it, you'll get 13 counters for {B}

[particle]

Ok thats what i wanted to know, my secod question had nothing to do with torpor orb. Thank you. That kinda is a pain in my rump.

However, if you want to do something cute with Death's Shadow and Dreadnought, Death's Shadow's ability doesn't function when it's in the graveyard.  If you use {Varolz, the Scar-Striped} to Scavenge it, you'll get 13 counters for {B}

and Then I redirect with {spellskite} and i get 13 counters for {U} or 2 life.

[MisterJH]

And then i punch you right in the mouth

[particle]

And then i punch you right in the mouth

lol i cant repeat plus 1ing you until 24 hours.

edit: and scavenging 13 counters for 1 mana means both of us deserve a punch in the mouth.

[MisterJH]

Well secretly id never use varolz because i hate golgari colors on the same card so no worries, no mouth punching combos here

Seriously {G}{B} on the same card is so freakin ugly unless its hybrid mana...

[particle]

Well secretly id never use varolz because i hate golgari colors on the same card so no worries, no mouth punching combos here

Seriously {G}{B} on the same card is so freakin ugly unless its hybrid mana...

i generally agree except for cards like {abrupt decay}. thats pretty.