Jund Vengevine - Work In Progress

[Spencer Addington]

Jund Vengevine - Work In Progress 60 cards, 0 sideboard 1 {Mountain} 3 {Marsh Flats} 2 {Stomping Ground} 4 {Blood Crypt} 4 {Overgrown Tomb} 4 {Verdant Catacombs} 2 {Forest} 3 {Swamp} 23 lands 4 {Tarmogoyf} 4 {Vengevine} 3 {Fauna Shaman} 4 {Lotleth Troll} 1 {Grim Lavamancer} 4 {Bloodghast} 4 {Gravecrawler} 2 {Shambling Shell} 26 creatures 2 {Liliana of the Veil} 3 {Abrupt Decay} 2 {Faithless Looting} 4 {Lightning Bolt} 11 other spells Sideboard Notes:

[MisterJH]

Wouldnt lavamancer hurt you since a fair amount of your cards serve a purpose from the grave?

[MisterJH]

Maybe drop 1? Go to 4 vengevines since multiples in your GY are only more awesomeness?

[Sparkle Ninja]

Wouldnt lavamancer hurt you since a fair amount of your cards serve a purpose from the grave?

I was about to say that. Instead of Lavamancer maybe {Lotleth Troll}?

EDIT:Just noticed they were already in there

[Spencer Addington]

Wouldnt lavamancer hurt you since a fair amount of your cards serve a purpose from the grave?

Since I'm using fetch lands and dredging it puts them non useable lands to work when they hit the graveyard.

[Spencer Addington]

Wouldnt lavamancer hurt you since a fair amount of your cards serve a purpose from the grave?

I was about to say that. Instead of Lavamancer maybe {Lotleth Troll}?

I have 4 in the list

[Sparkle Ninja]

Theres always Jarad!

[MisterJH]

Eh on second thought i guess 2 lavamancers is just fine, its all personal preference and like you said youd be able to squeeze some good damage out of him almost for certain

[Prplprince]

My friend has a deck kind of like this and he has  {Grisly Salvage} but it's more of a personal preference

[cltrn81]

I love {lotleth troll} and I am very surprised he does not see more play in tier 1 eternal formats.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

Would Lilly be any good in here? Her discard effect seems really one sided.

[cltrn81]

Would Lilly be any good in here? Her discard effect seems really one sided.

I think Lily is more synergistic than the pod.  Lily is more proactive with erring creatures from your hand to the GY.  The pod is definitely effective too but I think it would be interesting to see how the deck runs with switching each of those cards out and trying running it both ways.

[Spencer Addington]

{stinkweed imp} over {shambling shell}

I like shambling shell because it is a zombie, so I can play gravecrawler when he's out.

[MisterJH]

Its also just much better for beats

[Spencer Addington]

Added lily and took out birthing pod. Since there are so many 2 drops and very little 3 drops it didn't do as much as it could.