SHAMAN GOT BANNED!

Started by Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth, February 03, 2014, 12:01:27 AM

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imthelolrus

Quote from: Vileo on February 03, 2014, 01:07:12 AM
I'd like to point out that Burn was also using Shaman. It's sad when a BG card is literally just a better {Grim Lavamancer}.
Yeah, and that's basically wizards' point. The ban will allow players to innovate, other cards to shine, etc. little sad to see Deathrite, but it was a card that was powerful at any stage of the game. It's not that insane of a card, I could see it unbanned down the road when the format shifts a little more. It's definitely not time to unload 'em ;)

Again, the trend continues, wizards is not afraid to ban something in modern.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

{Deathrite Shaman} is a good ban, the card is too good and Jund is too powerful, but I am still emotionally attached to the card so I wish this didn't happen.

Teysa karlov


ihasfrozen

Quote from: Taysby on February 03, 2014, 09:27:25 AM
Annnnnnnnmd....  {bitterblossom} skyrockets in price.

{Mistbind Clique} is also moving up.

LadyGrixis

First of all, faeries just got 10x more terrifying.

Secondly, time to build a ZOO!!!!! :D

rarehuntertay

Quote from: LadyGrixis on February 03, 2014, 11:30:33 AM

Secondly, time to build a ZOO!!!!! :D

I agree!! Time to get Gardens and Foundries for sure. Just can't decide what to splash white for...

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: rarehuntertay on February 03, 2014, 11:54:27 AM
Quote from: LadyGrixis on February 03, 2014, 11:30:33 AM

Secondly, time to build a ZOO!!!!! :D

I agree!! Time to get Gardens and Foundries for sure. Just can't decide what to splash white for...
{Voice of Resurgence}, {Lightning Helix}, Vengeant possibly?

Vindog

Is it also banned in standard too?

MuggyWuggy

Nope and he won me a few games with my kind build last night

Dmreiss

Maybe I need some clarification... Why ban stuff in modern?  Aren't there more responses because there are more cards available?  Won't that make people find responses for it?  Or is it lazy deck development and lowest common denominator?

MuggyWuggy

If a card is used in every deck that top 8s tournaments, it usually gets attention of the dci ban crew

imthelolrus

Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 04, 2014, 07:10:45 PM
If a card is used in every deck that top 8s tournaments, it usually gets attention of the dci ban crew
Yes, while it didn't place 1st, it was 4ofs in all the BGx decks and that variations (eg junk Jund) were consistently top 8ing. My only issue with the ban is there isn't really a card that can fill that role that Shaman provided. At least when they banned {Bloofbraid Elf} there were other four drops like  {Thrun, the Last Troll} {Huntmaster of the Fells}

Kaworu, the Fifth Child

Quote from: imthelolrus on February 04, 2014, 10:55:58 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 04, 2014, 07:10:45 PM
If a card is used in every deck that top 8s tournaments, it usually gets attention of the dci ban crew
Yes, while it didn't place 1st, it was 4ofs in all the BGx decks and that variations (eg junk Jund) were consistently top 8ing. My only issue with the ban is there isn't really a card that can fill that role that Shaman provided. At least when they banned {Bloofbraid Elf} there were other four drops like  {Thrun, the Last Troll} {Huntmaster of the Fells}
{Noble Hiearch} price disagrees with you.

Silent1236

Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on February 04, 2014, 11:02:10 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on February 04, 2014, 10:55:58 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 04, 2014, 07:10:45 PM
If a card is used in every deck that top 8s tournaments, it usually gets attention of the dci ban crew
Yes, while it didn't place 1st, it was 4ofs in all the BGx decks and that variations (eg junk Jund) were consistently top 8ing. My only issue with the ban is there isn't really a card that can fill that role that Shaman provided. At least when they banned {Bloofbraid Elf} there were other four drops like  {Thrun, the Last Troll} {Huntmaster of the Fells}
{Noble Hiearch} price disagrees with you.

Hierarch is just an exalted {Llanowar Elves} in Jund...  Not really all that great in that spot, IMO.

imthelolrus

Unfortunately  {Noble Hierarch} is the best we've got, it's price is a reflection of demand, speculators, etc. it's truly a terrible replacement for Deathrite. Hierarch's price is also the result of its usefulness in zoo decks.