M15 waste not

[InfinitiveDivinity]

I think it definitely has poor matchups, I don't think waste not will create a top 8, but I think it will be played

Turning a {Thoughtseize} into a cantrip is pretty damn impressive though. I like the card a lot. The cost is very aggressive and it begs to be built around.

[DylanW18]

I think it definitely has poor matchups, I don't think waste not will create a top 8, but I think it will be played

Turning a {Thoughtseize} into a cantrip is pretty damn impressive though. I like the card a lot. The cost is very aggressive and it begs to be built around.

I agree. It's powerful. We can't say for sure yet, but I know it would be not so good against Reanimator based strategy, flashback Delver,  or a more graveyard {Birthing Pod} concept. But waiting to Thoughtsieze an opponent before turn 1 is bad just for the extra ability from Waste Not, by then their Geist, Delver, Pod or lock may already be on the board. But only time will tell

[DylanW18]

Just so people are aware, 8rack and Pox are modern decks already, this would give them a bit more for the toolbox though.

^This

[Vileo]

...and it begs to be built around.

This is the reason why it won't see competitive play, unless there is a deck devoted entirely to squeezing value out of this card.

[Birdbrain]

I think it definitely has poor matchups, I don't think waste not will create a top 8, but I think it will be played

Turning a {Thoughtseize} into a cantrip is pretty damn impressive though. I like the card a lot. The cost is very aggressive and it begs to be built around.

us there a way to make a deck that wins by giving the opponent {waste not} and then casting {one with nothing}? I'm going to work on one

[Vileo]

So you donate Waste Not, then discard your hand... And let him gain mana and zombies? I don't see how that even remotely wins you the game.

[Mattao19]

I think it definitely has poor matchups, I don't think waste not will create a top 8, but I think it will be played

Turning a {Thoughtseize} into a cantrip is pretty damn impressive though. I like the card a lot. The cost is very aggressive and it begs to be built around.

us there a way to make a deck that wins by giving the opponent {waste not} and then casting {one with nothing}? I'm going to work on one

How about casting {{One with nothing}} with {{Hive Mind}} out and {{Waste Not}} on the field.

Lol that's awesome!

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

I think it definitely has poor matchups, I don't think waste not will create a top 8, but I think it will be played

Turning a {Thoughtseize} into a cantrip is pretty damn impressive though. I like the card a lot. The cost is very aggressive and it begs to be built around.

I agree. It's powerful. We can't say for sure yet, but I know it would be not so good against Reanimator based strategy, flashback Delver,  or a more graveyard {Birthing Pod} concept. But waiting to Thoughtsieze an opponent before turn 1 is bad just for the extra ability from Waste Not, by then their Geist, Delver, Pod or lock may already be on the board. But only time will tell

Turn one
Swamp
{dark ritual}
{waste not}
{Thoughtseize}
Perfect!

And T2 another swamp for {Deathrite Shaman} for even bigger stuff, and you get even more buffs!

[Birdbrain]

So you donate Waste Not, then discard your hand... And let him gain mana and zombies? I don't see how that even remotely wins you the game.

i know its odd and doesn't make sense...and that's exactly why I want to try and pull it off

[InfinitiveDivinity]

So you donate Waste Not, then discard your hand... And let him gain mana and zombies? I don't see how that even remotely wins you the game.

i know its odd and doesn't make sense...and that's exactly why I want to try and pull it off

How does that even somewhat benefit you?

[Spencer Addington]

So you donate Waste Not, then discard your hand... And let him gain mana and zombies? I don't see how that even remotely wins you the game.

i know its odd and doesn't make sense...and that's exactly why I want to try and pull it off

How does that even somewhat benefit you?

Can't the man do something nice for the person he's playing against? What happened to sportsmanship and the like?

[Birdbrain]

So you donate Waste Not, then discard your hand... And let him gain mana and zombies? I don't see how that even remotely wins you the game.

i know its odd and doesn't make sense...and that's exactly why I want to try and pull it off

How does that even somewhat benefit you?

Can't the man do something nice for the person he's playing against? What happened to sportsmanship and the like?

actually, I'm going to try and find a way to make doing that realy stressful on the opponents strategy

[Birdbrain]

That's it! If they were all non land non creature cards {notion thief}. Than you can use flashback, or other stuff that uses the graveyard as a resource...hmmm....

[Ekann1]

i just like turning thoughtsieze into either a cantrip or negating the life-loss with a zombie token. Does anything think this could make {disciple of phenax} standard playable?

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I'd like to point out that we are discussing the viability of a card that won't even be released for another like 6 months and will be in an environment that will contain another 600 some cards that we haven't even seen yet. Even after that, RTR block will rotate and Theros-Huey standard has only had about 1/8 of the cards spoiled (Theros has been, but we haven't seen BNG, JOU, M15, Huey, Duey, Louie and M16 haven't even been mentioned.) That said, the card is probably just an EDH card, because it has been said many times that people hate land destruction and discard (or at least, having it used against them) and from that, we can guess that a Discard heavy standard isn't likely. Lastly, before Huey releases, {Thoughtsieze}, {Duress} and {Rakdos' Return} will be in standard with the card, so we couldn't see some nice interactions. I personally like it, and can't wait to have a foil!