Junk

[imthelolrus]

Junk 75 cards, 15 sideboard 3 {Tectonic Edge} 1 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth} 1 {Twilight Mire} 1 {Plains} 1 {Forest} 1 {Swamp} 2 {Stirring Wildwood} 1 {Treetop Village} 2 {Windswept Heath} 4 {Marsh Flats} 4 {Verdant Catacombs} 1 {Godless Shrine} 2 {Overgrown Tomb} 1 {Temple Garden} 25 lands 3 {Scavenging Ooze} 3 {Dark Confidant} 4 {Tarmogoyf} 4 {Siege Rhino} 14 creatures 4 {Thoughtseize} 3 {Inquisition of Kozilek} 1 {Slaughter Pact} 1 {Path to Exile} 4 {Abrupt Decay} 1 {Maelstrom Pulse} 1 {Dismember} 2 {Lingering Souls} 4 {Liliana of the Veil} 21 other spells Sideboard 1 {Ray of Revelation} 1 {Golgari Charm} 1 {Lingering Souls} 2 {Disfigure} 1 {Deathmark} 2 {Timely Reinforcements} 1 {Thrun, the Last Troll} 3 {Fulminator Mage} 2 {Creeping Corrosion} 1 {Stony Silence} 15 sideboard cards

[abstractApathist]

I would run another {abrupt decay} over {go for the throat}. What do you plan to do against {living end}?

Edit: Wait, where is {path to exile}?

[imthelolrus]

I would run another {abrupt decay} over {go for the throat}. What do you plan to do against {living end}?

Edit: Wait, where is {path to exile}?

Living End currently isn't in my local meta so I didn't plan for ways to deal with, but if I go elsewhere or someone brings the deck I can adjust the sideboard a little. I do have shamans and oozes to hate on the GY. Which I was wondering, is 4 copies of the ooze too many? Moneekah is saying she doesn't care for it and I've looked at things like {batterskull} or {thrun}, but I'm fond of the ooze.

I'm not sure where to fit PtE in the deck, I looked at countless lists and no one runs in, which struck me as odd. It's a great card, idk this list is heavily BG so adding paths might impact consistency. I will probably add an abrupt decay like you suggested since its a more versatile card.

[abstractApathist]

I would run another {abrupt decay} over {go for the throat}. What do you plan to do against {living end}?

Edit: Wait, where is {path to exile}?

Living End currently isn't in my local meta so I didn't plan for ways to deal with, but if I go elsewhere or someone brings the deck I can adjust the sideboard a little. I do have shamans and oozes to hate on the GY. Which I was wondering, is 4 copies of the ooze too many? Moneekah is saying she doesn't care for it and I've looked at things like {batterskull} or {thrun}, but I'm fond of the ooze.

I'm not sure where to fit PtE in the deck, I looked at countless lists and no one runs in, which struck me as odd. It's a great card, idk this list is heavily BG so adding paths might impact consistency. I will probably add an abrupt decay like you suggested since its a more versatile card.

I don't know much about Junk so if none of the lists on www.MtGTop8.com run path, I wouldn't. I think four scoozes and for shamans is fine, since you'll have plenty of stuff to clear out from all your removal. I can't think of a better creature to put in there...

[imthelolrus]

Yeah they aren't in the lists, I took it as a consistency issue and giving a land can be too harmful obviously when you have access to other great removal options.

(mtgtop8 has been very helpful, love that site)

[fj76ts4]

Shamans are there for going t1 fetch -> tomb -> shaman and then t2 -> any land -> exile fetch -> liliana, among other things. As explained earlier, Scoozes are there for general GY hate, and goyf is just there, because, well, he's goyf.

[imthelolrus]

I don't see why you'd run 4 scoozes, shamans, AND goyf.  That seems counterproductive, but I know nothing about junk...

This was Moneekah's reasoning against the 4th copy of ooze. However..

It's very removal/discard heavy, the graveyard ends up being fairly large on both sides. Late game goyf can be 5/6 or 4/5 pretty often. If the matchup has few creatures in the deck oozes can be sided out its not too terrible IMO.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I don't see why you'd run 4 scoozes, shamans, AND goyf.  That seems counterproductive, but I know nothing about junk...

It's not that bad when you think about it. Shamans will mostly eat lands and inst/sorc, Scoozes will mostly eat creatures, and Goyf only needs one copy of each thing in the graveyard. Also, every discard and kill spell puts at least 2 cards into the graveyard, plus fetches, so the GY will definitely fill up quickly.

[abstractApathist]

Which is why I'm not offering any advice on the matter.  The graveyard can fill up quickly but it feels like the deck is fighting itself.

It does take balance, yes, but it generally works just fine. Don't forget Lili makes everyone discard

[imthelolrus]

^Lilly is such a powerhouse in the deck, +1 discarding souls and flashing it back for protectors is sweet. It's a fun deck to play, I do need more practice with it and likely a  {Twilight Mire} over a plains.

[imthelolrus]

*waits for ConanEdo to comment* 😏😇

[abstractApathist]

*waits for ConanEdo to comment* 😏😇

Am I contractually obligated or something?

I think we all just highly respect your opinions.

[imthelolrus]

*waits for ConanEdo to comment* 😏😇

Am I contractually obligated or something?

I think we all just highly respect your opinions.

Yeah man, tell me what I'm doing wrong! (plus I think it's in your contract or something)

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Yeah yeah, only thing I can suggest is {{Elspeth Knight-Errant}} as a one-of. She does a lot of what you need and might be better than a fourth Souls.

This is why we have ConanEdo....this is great suggestion. A flying +3/+3 Goyf ends games REALLY quickly....

[imthelolrus]

Yeah yeah, only thing I can suggest is {{Elspeth Knight-Errant}} as a one-of. She does a lot of what you need and might be better than a fourth Souls.

This is why we have ConanEdo....this is great suggestion. A flying +3/+3 Goyf ends games REALLY quickly....

I feel as though I'm being patronized...

Heh

I did try elspeth as a one of over an ooze but maybe I dropped the wrong card. 😱