Enchantments

[Presentjackson]

Does a destroy target enchanment card destroy an enchantment creature like creatures with bestow?

[Butch1977]

Yes it does, kind of like artifact creature. Can destroy either "creature" or "artifact". Same goes with enchanment creature. Either one will do

[Presentjackson]

Thanks

[Presentjackson]

And deathtouch destroys an indestructible?

[Butch1977]

And deathtouch destroys an indestructible?

No it doesn't. Got to exile them to get rid of an indestructible.

[Moocow4u2]

And deathtouch destroys an indestructible?

No it doesn't. Got to exile them to get rid of an indestructible.

or reduce its toughness to 0 like target creature gets -x/-x or -1 counters

[Butch1977]

And deathtouch destroys an indestructible?

No it doesn't. Got to exile them to get rid of an indestructible.

or reduce its toughness to 0 like target creature gets -x/-x or -1 counters

That still doesn't remove them. Indestructible simply ignore 0 toughness

702.12b: A permanent with indestructible can't be destroyed. Such permanents aren't destroyed by lethal damage, and they ignore the state-based action that checks for lethal damage (see rule 704.5g).

[Moocow4u2]

And deathtouch destroys an indestructible?

No it doesn't. Got to exile them to get rid of an indestructible.

or reduce its toughness to 0 like target creature gets -x/-x or -1 counters

That still doesn't remove them. Indestructible simply ignore 0 toughness

702.12b: A permanent with indestructible can't be destroyed. Such permanents aren't destroyed by lethal damage, and they ignore the state-based action that checks for lethal damage (see rule 704.5g).

that isn't lethal damage. It's 1-/1- counters. I know damage doesn't destroy them but to my knowledge -1/-1 can still get rid of them. Negative buffs

[Moocow4u2]

{quag sickness} or {black sun's zenith} for example

[Butch1977]

And deathtouch destroys an indestructible?

No it doesn't. Got to exile them to get rid of an indestructible.

or reduce its toughness to 0 like target creature gets -x/-x or -1 counters

That still doesn't remove them. Indestructible simply ignore 0 toughness

702.12b: A permanent with indestructible can't be destroyed. Such permanents aren't destroyed by lethal damage, and they ignore the state-based action that checks for lethal damage (see rule 704.5g).

that isn't lethal damage. It's 1-/1- counters.

I misunderstood your post. I thought you meant it would be removed from the battlefield with a number of -1/-1 counters on it.

[Butch1977]

{quag sickness} or {black sun's zenith} for example

I don't think these cards would remove it from the battle field.

[Butch1977]

{quag sickness} or {black sun's zenith} for example

I don't think these cards would remove it from the battle field.

Sorry MooCow. I recant above staement and yield to you. You are correct

[Moocow4u2]

I'm pretty sure forcing them to sacrifice also removes indestructible

[Butch1977]

I'm pretty sure forcing them to sacrifice also removes indestructible

You are correct. The statebased effect will remove it as long as no combat damage happens. I am incorrect. But thank you for pointing that out for me as well

[Double-O-Scotch]

This is why {blightsteel collosus} was sooo good right up until they printed {tragic slip}. Still good but -/- counters and -/- buffs will "kill" an indestructible creature if it lowers their toughness to 0 or less...