Conspiracy Theories

Started by Mattao19, November 13, 2013, 07:20:49 PM

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Ertai

The ancient people developed irrigation techniques. "Aliens!"

Mikefrompluto

The theory that Kurt Cobain choosing to play left handed led to his suicide is fascinating.

rarehuntertay

I think so. Look at horseshoe crabs. Of all the life on this planet that had blood, there's is the only one not based on iron. I think their blood is based on copper...

Vyse

Go watch room 237 on netflix, it's a thought provoking film, makes me wonder if Stanley Kubrick really did have a part in the lunar landing footage.

Moocow4u2

Quote from: Mozilla butcher on November 13, 2013, 09:08:19 PM
Is it weird that anytime I go somewhere the first thing I notice is security cameras, and blind spots for those cameras, and yes I have been called a conspiracy theorist before
not weird xD I like hunting down the cameras in the stores for fun too :D I don't steal anything but if I did, many stores I know where the cameras were xD

Moocow4u2

Quote from: Vyse on November 13, 2013, 09:36:00 PM
Go watch room 237 on netflix, it's a thought provoking film, makes me wonder if Stanley Kubrick really did have a part in the lunar landing footage.
is that the one with that haunted hotel room? If so I've seen it... Awesome movie! Loved the end

Mikefrompluto

Quote from: Moocow4u2 on November 13, 2013, 09:45:52 PM
Quote from: Vyse on November 13, 2013, 09:36:00 PM
Go watch room 237 on netflix, it's a thought provoking film, makes me wonder if Stanley Kubrick really did have a part in the lunar landing footage.
is that the one with that haunted hotel room? If so I've seen it... Awesome movie! Loved the end

You're thinking of Room 1408. Room 237 is a doc that explores the theory that Stanely Kubrick directed the moon landing and was so overtaken with guilt that he left a confession in the movie The Shining. It's an excellent movie. Conspiracy theory within a conspiracy theory. So meta.

Vyse

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 13, 2013, 10:15:21 PM
Quote from: Moocow4u2 on November 13, 2013, 09:45:52 PM
Quote from: Vyse on November 13, 2013, 09:36:00 PM
Go watch room 237 on netflix, it's a thought provoking film, makes me wonder if Stanley Kubrick really did have a part in the lunar landing footage.
is that the one with that haunted hotel room? If so I've seen it... Awesome movie! Loved the end

You're thinking of Room 1408. Room 237 is a doc that explores the theory that Stanely Kubrick directed the moon landing and was so overtaken with guilt that he left a confession in the movie The Shining. It's an excellent movie. Conspiracy theory within a conspiracy theory. So meta.
Gods it's so nice knowing there's people out there who know what I'm on about, not putting down moocow you just didn't quite catch what I was throwing. Yeah though, awesome film

Mattao19

Quote from: ConanEdo on November 13, 2013, 10:39:06 PM
For my take on the fake moon landing: http://youtu.be/P6MOnehCOUw

For my view on whether or not aliens have visited us, let me first just point out that we probably won't be able to escape our own solar system, due to the problems of having evolved to live in a terrestrial setting and then living log term in a space setting. What you're essentially telling me is that these beings perfected faster than light travel and managed to find us before we have off any sophisticated form of communication such as radio signals? Bullcrap

To your alien point the universe is approx 14 billion years old which gives life a lot of time to evolve into intelligent life. What I'm saying is that we weren't the first species on our planet long before us there were dinosaurs. Now what if it were in reverse order and we evolved when the dinosaurs did, then there we would be a planet of intelligent life long before now. Meaning that other possible planets with life could have done this and therefore in that time from back then to now they could have figured out many different ways to travel faster than light and to travel beyond their solar system

Mattao19

True it's a stretch but when you see things in our world and try to comprehend how ancient man, who barely knew what fire was, building these massive temples and structures with the most primitive tools you have to think that there had to have been some sort of help.

Also to your point what I'm saying is that they would have had X years on us to develope stuff our hostory dates 10's of 1,000's years ago. Imagine what we will be doing in the next say 1,000 years it will be uncomprehendable to our "primitive thinking" because our minds don't know how to do these things. Just bc we have yet to perfect space travel by NO MEANS makes it impossible

Dudecore

Conan has a point. I think we're all probably in agreement about the idea of life on other planets. However, physics still apply to everything in the universe. Intelligent life on other planets are still the result of evolution. Since they have not evolved and adapted to handle the cold, unforgiving, cruelty of space, they're more then likely not capable of sustaining space travel for BILLIONS of years it would take - let alone to approach the speed of light for that sustained time.

It is interesting, but I think that extraterrestrials would be similar to us. And if they haven't destroyed their planet once they figured out the Atom bomb, or once they figured out E=MC2, or whatever religious strife they may have- they would have much to say. But they'd still be a lot like us, There is no doubt they'd have many of the same obstacles we have had, their fair share of auto-immune diseases, plagues and conquerors.

Mattao19

But it's not just that you see these temples with stones that are thousands of pounds and have such straight cuts that's its like a machine performed them. Something that modern technology is just starting to be able to do plus you look at places like Stonehinge where the stones used were stones that had to have been imported thousand of miles and even across a body of water

Dudecore

Quote from: Mattao19 on November 13, 2013, 11:45:14 PM
But it's not just that you see these temples with stones that are thousands of pounds and have such straight cuts that's its like a machine performed them. Something that modern technology is just starting to be able to do plus you look at places like Stonehinge where the stones used were stones that had to have been imported thousand of miles and even across a body of water

How would any of that lead to someone believing aliens did it? I don't think any of that constitutes proof. "Ancient" people had Techbology also, engineers and contractors built the pyramids with tools. Precise stone masons existed, as well as they do today. Conceptually it's difficult for people nowadays to think of those people as being intelligent. We consider them "less advanced", but they too had technical, skilled laborers.

Pyramids are quite easy to build, fire was well known, they had written language and other marvels. As far as being primative: the insatiable bloodlust, cannibalism, ritualistic sacrifices and other behavior we consider abhorrent did eventually fall out of favor. It all gave way to what we've got now.

Mattao19

That's true but it's still what I believe. It's an answer that I can see actually happening. I feel like there are aliens out there and I understand the physics problem with space travel but what if they figured it out? It's nearly impossible for us to think of legitimately traveling through space but think about the Ancient Greeks Romans etc. they would laugh at you if you told them that man could fly. So why is it so hard to believe that ets developed this technology?

Dudecore

Quote from: Mattao19 on November 14, 2013, 12:01:57 AM
That's true but it's still what I believe. It's an answer that I can see actually happening. I feel like there are aliens out there and I understand the physics problem with space travel but what if they figured it out? It's nearly impossible for us to think of legitimately traveling through space but think about the Ancient Greeks Romans etc. they would laugh at you if you told them that man could fly. So why is it so hard to believe that ets developed this technology?

It is by definition "hard to believe". There is also an obvious limitation on what ancient Romans may believe in respect to modern man, as there are no ancient Romans to source information from on the matter. We cannot say with any accuracy what they may believe about flight.

As a matter of the limitations of space travel - either it is possible and they're here, or it is as limited as we expect (with regard to the laws of physics) and cannot be overcome. Either scenario presents no such known evidence - so with regard to aliens having visited this planet - I reject that premise due to insufficient (none) evidence.