Netdecking

Started by Mattao19, November 07, 2013, 01:16:35 AM

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Mattao19

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on November 09, 2013, 04:49:45 PM
I think he is talking about how {Ætherling} and {Obzedat, Ghost Council} can be recurred with {Whip of Erebos}, and then you can keep them until they die again if they survive the turn. Rinse and repeat!

True I love how that works. Great card design

gtfotis

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on November 09, 2013, 04:49:45 PM
I think he is talking about how {Ætherling} and {Obzedat, Ghost Council} can be recurred with {Whip of Erebos}, and then you can keep them until they die again if they survive the turn. Rinse and repeat!
Exactly! I love those guys :D
{Thoughtseize} my {Ætherling}? Thanks, I'll just cast him for 4 mana! 😬

Another thing I like to do is if I have an Obzedat cycling in and out and one in the graveyard, I'll have him return on turn, swing, bring back Obzedat to sac my first one, exile at end of turn for an easy 9+ damage 😋 Also rinse and repeat!

Dudecore

In play Esper everyone. I've been playing Esper every chance I get since 2001. I like those colors, I feel most comfortable with those colors and they're usually powerful. I haven't seen this much hate against "4 mana, derp, turn sideways, Bloodrush" strategies. I don't like playing aggro decks, I've basically avoid playing aggro decks whenever possible. Esper is fine, it's just recycled at this point - with {Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver} instead of {Nephalia Drownyard}.

To Kaleo's point, that all sounds good. It's true people who never learn to brew competitively are rarely successful on a high level. Some people do not have a team, but access to money to build decks. To each their own. I don't begrudge people who use netdecks, the genie is out of the bottle - there is no putting it back in.

Butch1977

Quote from: Dudecore on November 09, 2013, 05:27:43 PM
In play Esper everyone. I've been playing Esper every chance I get since 2001. I like those colors, I feel most comfortable with those colors and they're usually powerful. I haven't seen this much hate against "4 mana, derp, turn sideways, Bloodrush" strategies. I don't like playing aggro decks, I've basically avoid playing aggro decks whenever possible. Esper is fine, it's just recycled at this point - with {Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver} instead of {Nephalia Drownyard}.

To Kaleo's point, that all sounds good. It's true people who never learn to brew competitively are rarely successful on a high level. Some people do not have a team, but access to money to build decks. To each their own. I don't begrudge people who use netdecks, the genie is out of the bottle - there is no putting it back in.

Agreed! Although I have never copied a deck card by card, I have never been around a strong Magic community. If it wasn't for net decks i would not know what was standard strong. I can usually get two booster boxes on release weekend but that still cant get all the cards. If it wasn't for net decks I would even know about a lot of different insight.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Looking at pro tour decks is a great idea, it adds to your understanding of both the game and the current state of the meta. My problem with net-decking is people who think they are big shots because they have the card-for-card #1 deck show up to FNM and act like jerks.

DylanW18

I've personally never net decked. All my builds have been Homebrew, my Junk Lifegain, Selesnya, and especially my Grixis Control which is always being worked on. I'm not against Net Decking, but I don't think people should be big shots simply because they have money, but rather their skill/deck building. I'd much rather take my Grixis and go 3-1 then net deck mono blue beats and go 4-0. Just my opinion though

Arzair

There have been several threads about net decking on here in the past... Eventually the discussion will come to the conclusion that it is really an argument of competitive vs. casual.... The player archetypes outlined by MARO usually come into play... My response now is the same as it was then...



Magic is many things to many people, so like it or not, some people will play it (according to another person) "the wrong way".

This is true for every aspect of the game, from deck building to play style.

Decide what it is that you like about magic, then do it.

Decide what you don't like, and don't.

Come to the realization that everyone who plays has their own opinions and beliefs.  (This is a good thing, I promise)

Play magic with like minded people... Otherwise you are setting yourself up for failure ... Whether it be getting kicked from a playgroup ... Or losing at FNM... Because each player has different ideas about what the game 'should be'... And what exactly a failure is.

Magic is a game. A game that can be played many different ways, for many different reasons. That my friends, is why magic is amazing.




Mattao19

Wow that was beautifully written!

Vileo

Quote from: Mattao19 on November 10, 2013, 02:53:29 AM
Wow that was beautifully written!
Agreed. He gets a +1 from me.

Mlerner12

Quote from: Wizardmook on November 10, 2013, 01:04:59 PM
Home brews are great as it confuses the hell out of the netdeck sheep as they have no idea what they are up against.
True. Also, if you met deck you can't say you're a better player than a home brewer, since it's the net deck maker that is. That's just my opinion, thought.

Vileo

Actually, I didn't mention this but I won my Gatecrash gameday playmat with a homebrew. Boros aggro. {Ash Zealot}s and {Champion of the Parish} and {Hellrider} and {Frontline Medic} and {Thundermaw} and stuffs. I think I also played {Gather the Townsfolk}, but I don't remember if I had cut it at that point or not.

Ertai

Quote from: Wizardmook on November 10, 2013, 01:04:59 PM
Home brews are great as it confuses the hell out of the netdeck sheep as they have no idea what they are up against.

I usually don't bash people for playing magic, whether they net deck or home brew, last night at my store we had a casual tourney, any format goes and 10 out of the 35 people that played had a standard net deck. I knew they were net decks because I asked them what deck it was and where they got it. At first just to joke around, and then realized they were very serious.

That's a lot of people who copy decks. I mean they pay my bills, so I'm not going to complain. Haha

Mattao19


Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Ertai on November 10, 2013, 08:19:49 PM
Quote from: Wizardmook on November 10, 2013, 01:04:59 PM
Home brews are great as it confuses the hell out of the netdeck sheep as they have no idea what they are up against.

I usually don't bash people for playing magic, whether they net deck or home brew, last night at my store we had a casual tourney, any format goes and 10 out of the 35 people that played had a standard net deck. I knew they were net decks because I asked them what deck it was and where they got it. At first just to joke around, and then realized they were very serious.

That's a lot of people who copy decks. I mean they pay my bills, so I'm not going to complain. Haha
YOU OWN A STORE!?!?! That's awesome, where is it?

Ertai

Reno Nevada. If you're close, come check us out!