Favored Hoplite

Started by Mattao19, November 03, 2013, 10:44:20 AM

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Mattao19

{Favored Hoplite} and {Lightning Strike}

Say I have a FH in play and I cast {Titanic Strength} his heroic triggers and in response to the cast they LS my FH my FH lives bc his heroic triggers and I prevent all damage dealt to it right?

DimirOverlord1300

No lightning strike resolves first and kills it

Mattao19

No but doesn't Heroic trigger bc it's when a spell targets a creature so it's cast heroic triggers then prevents damage then prevents damage?

DimirOverlord1300

It's only a spell you control

Mattao19

Ya the titanic strength is mine

DimirOverlord1300

The stack order would go lightning, fh, titans strength. The lightning resolves first, and kills the Hoplite before heroic or titans strength triggers

Mattao19

Really?
Last time let me explain the order:
1. I cast {Titaninc Strength} on my FH
2. Opponent plays {Lightning Strike} on it
3. How does the stack go?

DimirOverlord1300

You cast titans strength, then heroic triggers, then lightning strike. The stack resolves in reverse order, so ls resolves first, killing the Hoplite before heroic resolves

Mattao19


Steerpike

Your hoplite survives

Nothing in the stack even needs to resolve, hoplite just needs to be targeted and boom, prevent damage

Mattao19

That's what I thought too ok thanks

Steerpike

Further clarification from MtG Salvation


"Heroic abilities will resolve before the spell that caused them to trigger."

Mattao19


Wackaman9001

Hoplite dies. When you cast the strength, heroic goes on the stack, and then your opponent has the chance to cast spells. They cast the strike, pass priority, and then you pass too. Strike resolves, killing hoplite. Hoplite trigger tries to fire but fails, and same for the strength, due to lack of target

Steerpike

#14
Again, "Heroic abilities will resolve before the spell that caused them to trigger." Which includes everything else in the stack.

The stack can go on for days, Nothing in the stack needs to resolve before Hoplite gets to prevent all his damage.

Heroic gets triggered by the legal targeting, not the resolution, of Titan's Strength.

You could counter a spell, but unless you played something like Silence, there's nothing you can do to prevent someone from casting and targeting to immediately activate their card's heroic ability.