Affordable Healthcare Act

[LadyGrixis]

Someone had to bring this up

Thoughts? For/Against? What do you think the outcome will be for the United States, both as a whole, as well as for each individual citizen? Etc.....

[MuggyWuggy]

Well if you don't get insurance. You're gonna get a fine.


So there's that.

[LadyGrixis]

Well if you don't get insurance. You're gonna get a fine.


So there's that.

True, but to some, the fine may be worth it to give him/her the option of opting out. Who knows?

[Mikefrompluto]

My employer is cutting spouses due to increased rates. From $120 to $400 for my wife. "Affordable."

[Steerpike]

No congressman really seeks to destroy American lives, they're just incredibly short sighted as far as I can tell.

There'll be more than 2 years of it being active, hopefully that's enough time for people to support its repeal.

[LadyGrixis]

I found it very entertaining, while watching the News last night, when the reporter was walking around the streets of New York asking people which healthcare plan they were for: the Affordable Healthcare Act or Obamacare.

Most people either didn't know the difference, or they just said "no comment/I haven't educated myself on either enough to answer". And then, instead of being entertained, I was saddened....

[rarehuntertay]

Health insurance should stay privatized. Socializing it removes the motivation for many doctors to do well; they'll get paid the same either way since the government employs them. Essentially, we'd be dealing with more military doctors, and no one wants to deal with that kind of carelessness.

Plus, the bill itself is a bastardization of a House Resolution originally intended to help veterans buy a house after their tours. The Senate just erased the original resolution and rewrote the healthcare bill in its place using House stationery.

American .politics. at their finest

I have met some military doctors that actually knew and did their jobs, and did it well. I have met others that really just didn't care. As long as someone getting paid a salary, you will run into people like that. You will have the ones that really care about their job, and you will have the ones that don't.

[Steerpike]

...yeah, screw all those people without insurance. Has anyone actually looked at other models for this plan? I'm all for it.

We would all love to guarantee healthcare for those who need it as soon as we are capable of paying for it and aren't going to fine people for not having it.

[LadyGrixis]

^This....

[Steerpike]

Idealism has no place in applied .politics.

And this

[Mlerner12]

The gov knew when they passed it into law, that it would make tens of millions of Americans lose their healthcare.  That's them saying "screw you America!"  I think something needs to be done about that president.  Surely there has to be some way we can impeach him for making Americans lose heir healthcare.

It's the congress, as far as my college-professor father with 3 masters, 2 PhDs, etc. (All that means is he's a reliable source. I'm not bragging.) But yeah, it's a bad move. And @ladygrixis' is that another new profile picture?

[LadyGrixis]

Lol yeessss

[Moocow4u2]

...yeah, screw all those people without insurance. Has anyone actually looked at other models for this plan? I'm all for it.

If it were its own thing, I'd have less of an issue with it (cuz if good men and women are going out to fight and die for us, I'd rather they be able to have a home when they get back instead of this financial travesty)

And as for cheap healthcare, I'm all for it, but it doesn't work this way all the time. It works in places like Switzerland, but it's a small enough nation to be efficient. Then you have Canada where getting a doctor visit can be time-consuming enough to be almost pointless in the end

What I mean is, it sounds good and all, but in practice it's terrible. Idealism has no place in applied .politics.

I've never had trouble getting a doctor when I needed it (I'm in Canada) you can easily go to a walk in clinic for something simple. Something a little more serious and you can schedule an appointment with a family doctor and the wait still isn't too bad, a couple days maybe. Emergencies aren't too bad of a wait either I got in immediately when I sliced my finger to the bone at my old job lol I've never had a problem with timing

[Kareason]

^^

I work in medicine and I can tell you this much, our current system is broken. ACA is a start but is not the answer. What bothers me is that a number of other countries have done this and have excelled. They have increased the overall health of their citizens and done so in a cost effective manner. I just wonder why we simply didn't model from their already proven programs. Guess it's just the "We're American dang it!" mentality of having to do it our own way.

[MarduArrow]

Gonna say it again, proud to be Canadian