Net Decks. A discussion.

[imthelolrus]

Yea, someone is going back to my previous posts and pinging me down too. Lol.

People just get so mad. Oh well.

+1

Thanks, you didn't have to though. I mean, even if I'm at -60 karma and everyone Hates me, still gonna speak my mind. Lol.

👍

[Vampyvyrus]

I'm still gettin pinged on this subject lol. Some people are too sensitive, can't even handle other people's opinions.

[DirtyMustachio]

I rarely join the fray in discussion because I'm to busy living in trade thread land.

So I'll start by noting I played yugioh competitively for around 8 years, at a nationals competitive level. Never incredibly high placed, but that's irrelevant to this conversation. So being that the level of netdecking there was there to when I came into mtg and saw the same thing, I had already been exposed to the concept.

See heres the thing about magic, mistakes cost you horribly. Sure you can netdeck and do well to some degree, but the better player 90% of the time is going to win, that and the games will still be relatively interesting to watch even if its a mirror.

See magic doesn't really have what you would call an "auto pilot" deck. That's what yugioh has reverted to. Decks that literally need no thought to win with. And even though they ban the yugioh "power 9" they come out with another slew of retarded cards to abuse and develop single minded meta.

So that's whats wrong with yugioh. Don't get me wrong,  I can't really say I think net decking is right. Personally I choose not to, because my mind is constantly on magic my decks how I can improve what can I do different and etc. And if I were to use someone else's deck its like I would just be standing on someone else's shoulders. When I make a change to my deck and it works, the victory is allll mine. I know u/b infect was slightly popular, and I know that I wasn't the only one in standard runnning it. But I'll te. You what,  my brew started with me when scars came out, I fiddled with mono b/ and g/b but at the end of the day I had my baby down to a science, and with a positive winning ratio I felt like an awesome underdog in the meta.

Okay sorry to keep going on, but that being said I think net decking is necessary to an extent.I appreciate that standard has such a diverse and competitive metagame. I think in part its thanks to netdecking, a lot of netdeckers are creative because they take good ideas and improve upon them. Yugioh isnt about creativity its about mandatory combos or bust.

I also appreciate the ability to build my deck then check for the top 10-15 decks winning big tournaments in my colors just to see what it is theyre doing and what I can learn from a different perspective to my play style.

In closing, ultimately net decking in magic is more beneficial than harmful to the game, at least in my experiance.

Because who else hates losing to it, goes home and scours the format for a winning solution. Therefore creating the next level of netddeck.

As opposed to if you can't beat em, join em.

[KILLERBEE]

Net decking just takes away so much fun, even for yourself. Yes it's fun to win but you're winning with someone else's deck so where's the pride in that? Researching different cards has become my new fun thing to do. I keep finding new Legendary Creatures and trying to think of ways to work them as a commander and what I would put in the deck. I found a legend named  {Johan} and my name is Jon so I thought it was cool and now I have an awesome deck based around a legend with a name similar to mine. Long story short, be creative, try to use your own ideas, and play to have fun, don't net deck just to win. If you take time and play your deck a lot and learn different cards and how they can work, any deck can be a winner.

[Double-O-Scotch]

Whenever I'm building a deck, I remember the flavour text on {chance encounter}. And it's true!

[Wackaman9001]

I don't know anyone that netdecks for commander and I'm so glad for that, commander is the land of homebrews!

[Double-O-Scotch]

Lol, home brews and then there's ZUR. I've played against people running Zur that don't even know how their own deck works. Translation = net decking.

Not even our beloved EDH is safe from net decking.

[Bman0121]

If im just going to like a FNM im not going to be boring and net deck im going to make a hilarious deck and have fun with it and let my opponent have fun I play maze's end in standard because its hilarious and I dont want to shell out over 200 dollars for a deck that will only last a year I spent like 80 bucks on my deck and im more happy with it than anything else. Now in Modern I do net decl because I play in a lot of more competitive enviroments I built reid duke's G/W aura deck he came in 2nd with at worlds because it wins and I dont want to waste money on competitive tournements playing a "fun" deck. I love brewing I brew all the time for standard but eternal formats lets leave that too the pros to make our deck

[JustAWalrus]

Net decking isn't neccesarily a bad thing, what wins at FNM is usually more of the deck than the strategy but in top tournements if you dont run a good deck then you lose and the winner is usually the best player strategy wise, dont say your good because you win fnm with jund midrange but if you beat all the other people running the same deck as you then you are good at the game. Its fun to make up good decks and it can be effective, the margine between the best and the worst isn't as big as you think. Homebrew decks can win and net decking is also a weakness to your opponent because you know exactly what to expect and can build your deck around that. Homebrew decks can win and you can build a good one to win with but it's just your decision and net decks arent going to just go away so build your deck around them.

[Arzair]

Wow. Many opinions stated as fact and I am jumping in here on page 8 it looks like to throw my two UU 'counterspell' into the fray...

Magic is many things to many people, so like it or not, some people will play it (according to another person) "the wrong way".

This is true for every aspect of the game, from deck building to play style.

Decide what it is that you like about magic, then do it.

Decide what you don't like, and don't.

Come to the realization that everyone who plays has their own opinions and beliefs.  (This is a good thing, I promise)

Play magic with like minded people... Otherwise you are setting yourself up for failure ... Whether it be getting kicked from a playgroup ... Or losing at FNM... Because each player has different ideas about what the game 'should be'... And what exactly a failure is.

Magic is a game. A game that can be played many different ways, for many different reasons. That my friends, is why magic is amazing.

[Mlerner12]

Wow. Many opinions stated as fact and I am jumping in here on page 8 it looks like to throw my two UU 'counterspell' into the fray...

Magic is many things to many people, so like it or not, some people will play it (according to another person) "the wrong way".

This is true for every aspect of the game, from deck building to play style.

Decide what it is that you like about magic, then do it.

Decide what you don't like, and don't.

Come to the realization that everyone who plays has their own opinions and beliefs.  (This is a good thing, I promise)

Play magic with like minded people... Otherwise you are setting yourself up for failure ... Whether it be getting kicked from a playgroup ... Or losing at FNM... Because each player has different ideas about what the game 'should be'... And what exactly a failure is.

Magic is a game. A game that can be played many different ways, for many different reasons. That my friends, is why magic is amazing.

+1 for being a GENIUS

[Birdbrain]

Whenever I'm building a deck, I remember the flavour text on {chance encounter}. And it's true!

i remember finding a combo on YouTube were you had to flip 256 coins. And now I want to build a deck around it after seeing this card

[Iandtormentor]

What was the combo? That sounds soooooooo awesome

[Birdbrain]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dpaFFlEfOL8

Watch that. It's on there