Net Decks. A discussion.

Started by Moneekahh, August 08, 2013, 01:02:44 PM

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Mikefrompluto

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 08, 2013, 09:47:42 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on August 08, 2013, 09:44:51 PM
There's no argument here. There's people who appreciate net decking, and then there's everyone else, who is wrong. 😜

No, there are people who enjoy all of the aspects of Magic (including deck building) and there are people who would rather just dole out cash so they can feel accomplished.

You're aware of what a Spike is, yeah?

Hunteroffire9

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on August 08, 2013, 09:53:13 PM
The level of hate in this discussion is very lopsided. Pro-net deckers couldn't less, while anti-net deckers are passionate about not being a net decker.
I don't technically make my own decks I take net decks and spice them up, make junk, junk wolfrun, and add red to reanimater, or if I'm playing esper splash green or red, naya add black, gruul add Abit of white, naya blitz make it 4 color aggro etc. I feal like I have to change it Abit to feal better about winnig or just make my own deck.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on August 08, 2013, 09:55:15 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 08, 2013, 09:47:42 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on August 08, 2013, 09:44:51 PM
There's no argument here. There's people who appreciate net decking, and then there's everyone else, who is wrong. 😜

No, there are people who enjoy all of the aspects of Magic (including deck building) and there are people who would rather just dole out cash so they can feel accomplished.

You're aware of what a Spike is, yeah?

From MaRo "Spike is the competitive player. Spike plays to win. Spike enjoys winning. To accomplish this, Spike will play whatever the best deck is. Spike will copy decks off the Internet. Spike will borrow other players' decks. To Spike, the thrill of Magic is the adrenalin rush of competition. Spike enjoys the stimulation of outplaying the opponent and the glory of victory.

Spike cares more about the quantity of wins than the quality. For example, Spike plays ten games and wins nine of them. If Spike feels he should have won the tenth, he walks away unhappy."

In my opinion, if you are only playing to win, there is no point in playing. It's a game, play to have fun.

Birdbrain

I personally think one doesn't have to lop out a bunch of cash and can still make a competitive deck. You don't need to copy other players. There are literally hundreds of strategies and possibly archetypes out there that haven't been discovered. You just need to tinker until that aha! Moment. Or you can look at a card, see what goes with that card, and run with it. You don't need to net deck to become a winner. Top players come up with new decks, and people copy them. But guess what? There top players that Come Up With There Own Decks! If everyone net decked all the time, no new decks would ever be created. So there
And another thing. Trying to come up with something new actually makes you smarter. Copying something already established just makes your brain lazy

Hunteroffire9

Damn this is a hot topic people keep posting.

Mothaelon

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 08, 2013, 09:59:12 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on August 08, 2013, 09:55:15 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 08, 2013, 09:47:42 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on August 08, 2013, 09:44:51 PM
There's no argument here. There's people who appreciate net decking, and then there's everyone else, who is wrong. 😜

No, there are people who enjoy all of the aspects of Magic (including deck building) and there are people who would rather just dole out cash so they can feel accomplished.

You're aware of what a Spike is, yeah?

From MaRo "Spike is the competitive player. Spike plays to win. Spike enjoys winning. To accomplish this, Spike will play whatever the best deck is. Spike will copy decks off the Internet. Spike will borrow other players' decks. To Spike, the thrill of Magic is the adrenalin rush of competition. Spike enjoys the stimulation of outplaying the opponent and the glory of victory.

Spike cares more about the quantity of wins than the quality. For example, Spike plays ten games and wins nine of them. If Spike feels he should have won the tenth, he walks away unhappy."

In my opinion, if you are only playing to win, there is no point in playing. It's a game, play to have fun.

And winning can't be fun? Sorry

More crap. I enjoy winning. It's fun. Just because It isn't fun to you, doesn't mean it's not fun for others.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Birdbrain on August 08, 2013, 10:00:05 PM
I personally think one doesn't have to lop out a bunch of cash and can still make a competitive deck. You don't need to copy other players. There are literally hundreds of strategies and possibly archetypes out there that haven't been discovered. You just need to tinker until that aha! Moment. Or you can look at a card, see what goes with that card, and run with it. You don't need to net deck to become a winner. Top players come up with new decks, and people copy them. But guess what? There top players that Come Up With There Own Decks! If everyone net decked all the time, no new decks would ever be created. So there
And another thing. Trying to come up with something new actually makes you smarter. Copying something already established just makes your brain lazy

Yep. There were a bunch of people running high dollar control, elf hexproof, ect. Net-decks at my LGS. I went out, made a $20 Boros Aggro deck and got first place.

Moneekahh

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 08, 2013, 09:59:12 PM
In my opinion, if you are only playing to win, there is no point in playing. It's a game, play to have fun.

But... Winning IS fun. And for some of us, winning supports our habit.

Hunteroffire9

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Birdbrain

Quote from: Moneekahh on August 08, 2013, 10:04:47 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 08, 2013, 09:59:12 PM
In my opinion, if you are only playing to win, there is no point in playing. It's a game, play to have fun.

But... Winning IS fun. And for some of us, winning supports our habit.
i think someone can find a balance between winning and being creative though

Hunteroffire9

Quote from: Moneekahh on August 08, 2013, 10:04:47 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 08, 2013, 09:59:12 PM
In my opinion, if you are only playing to win, there is no point in playing. It's a game, play to have fun.

But... Winning IS fun. And for some of us, winning supports our habit.
For me I like to win(and do) but I feal more honor playing a harder deck like combo or control.

Coffee Vampire

Buying a net deck is the exact equivalent to buying an event deck. Only net decks actually win. There's nothing wrong with playing what works. It's really that simple.

Hunteroffire9

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on August 08, 2013, 10:09:17 PM
Buying a net deck is the exact equivalent to buying an event deck. Only net decks actually win. There's nothing wrong with playing what works. It's really that simple.
+1 perfectly saide.

Silent1236

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 08, 2013, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on August 08, 2013, 10:09:17 PM
Buying a net deck is the exact equivalent to buying an event deck. Only net decks actually win. There's nothing wrong with playing what works. It's really that simple.
+1 perfectly saide.

Boom!  Welcome to the hundreds, CV! 👏

Birdbrain

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on August 08, 2013, 10:09:17 PM
Buying a net deck is the exact equivalent to buying an event deck. Only net decks actually win. There's nothing wrong with playing what works. It's really that simple.
but this takes all the joy out of the discovery aspect of the game