Undying help

Started by Mattao19, August 04, 2013, 10:51:25 PM

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Mattao19

Is there an artifact or enchantment that's something like {T}: remove a +1/+1 counter from target creature? Something that works well with undying.

Or even something like  {Melira, Sylvok Outcast} but for +1/+1 counters?

Silent1236


Arbitratur

 {Zameck Guildmage}, I know it's a creature but does what u ask, and draws a card too!

Bookmeister

#3
{Thrull Parasite} also a creature but works as well.

By the way, there are no artifacts or enchantments that do what you want, at least in standard.

Mattao19

Ya well undying is leaving anywayi just thought as a casual deck to have undying and then tap to remove the counter then have some great times lol

Thanks for you suggestions btw

Subiskier

I've posted a few times. {triskelion} + {mikaeus, the undying} = infinite damage. Use one counter to hurt opponent, two more to kill triskelion. He comes back, actually with an additional 1/1. Two to opponent two to opponent, repeat repeat done

Caininite


Leevai420

Quote from: GlowackAttack on August 06, 2013, 02:24:10 AM
Finding some way to put a -1/-1 counter on the creature will also remove the +1/+1. So things like serrated biskelion and various cards with persist would end up causing some havoc. I actually hve a Blood Artist, Ivy lane denizen, persist creature deck. Infinite creature cycling is always fun.

This isn't right. If you have a creature with a +1/+1 counter and then find a way to give it a -1/-1 counter it will then have 1 of each type of counter. They DO NOT cancel each other out.

MementoMori

Quote from: Leevai420 on August 07, 2013, 01:36:55 PM
If you have a creature with a +1/+1 counter and then find a way to give it a -1/-1 counter it will then have 1 of each type of counter. They DO NOT cancel each other out.
False.

Quote121.3. If a permanent has both a +1/+1 counter and a -1/-1 counter on it, N +1/+1 and N -1/-1 counters are removed from it as a state-based action, where N is the smaller of the number of +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters on it.

Foreplay0333


Mattao19

Quote from: Foreplay0333 on August 07, 2013, 11:37:43 PM
{Bioshift}

Yes but I was thinking like a permanent like an artifact with tap remove counter from target creature

Leevai420

Quote from: MementoMori on August 07, 2013, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: Leevai420 on August 07, 2013, 01:36:55 PM
If you have a creature with a +1/+1 counter and then find a way to give it a -1/-1 counter it will then have 1 of each type of counter. They DO NOT cancel each other out.
False.

Quote121.3. If a permanent has both a +1/+1 counter and a -1/-1 counter on it, N +1/+1 and N -1/-1 counters are removed from it as a state-based action, where N is the smaller of the number of +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters on it.

Did this change recently??

Gorzo

Nope, a very, very old rule.

Leevai420

Then I was lied to back when I was playing aggro infect. Should have called a judge.

Mattao19

Quote from: Leevai420 on August 08, 2013, 06:19:09 PM
Then I was lied to back when I was playing aggro infect. Should have called a judge.

Always call a judge lol